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ScottoftheBoro
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| Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:47 PM |
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If Jim Thome is overrated then so is Babe Ruth... |
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Dixxy
Posts: 349
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| Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:23 PM |
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And Wayne Gretzky or Bobby Orr, if you feel like playing like that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You are entitled to not like it.
Quite honestly... Legend whilst still playing? no. Babe Ruth is dead. THERE is a LEGEND
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volbox
Posts: 62
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| Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:14 PM |
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If that's mediocrity I wonder what to make of Jeffrey Hammonds, Miguel Tejada and Brian Giles, all of which are also on the set. |
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addysdaddy
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| Friday, April 25, 2014 9:23 AM |
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I'm not saying he isn't a good player, that's obvious because he played so long. What I was saying is that just because you played that long doesn't qualify you as a legend. His career stats will never get him into the HOF, baseball writers will pass him over year after year. The will always give credit to his longevity and his abutting to hit in clutch but other than his home run total what is there? .262 average will not put him through he is 672 hits shy of the standard "3000 hits = HOF status" . He is a 5x All Star and one time Silver Slugger award winner. I might be 100% wrong on this because I'm not an expert but I don't see him being in the HOF nor a legend. That's just my opinion folks, don't ding up my corners so much. |
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NJDevils
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| Friday, April 25, 2014 2:53 PM |
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Always admired Thome. I think his accomplishments were without the use of steroids unlike Sosa and the whole bunch. A "Legend", no. But card companies always do this to push their product. Oh, Thome didnt "cork" like Sosa did either. |
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carthage44
Posts: 281
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| Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:48 AM |
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No question Thome
is a Hall of Famer
as he played the
game the right way.
Addy, his career
average was .276
like I posted
not .262 like you
stated. Also, 3,000
hits in not the
only requirement to
get into the Hall.
He is one of the
best power hitters
on all-time and his
612 career home
runs reflect that.
He should be a
first ballot Hall
of Famer but if for
whatever reason he
is not, he will be
in within 2 or 3
years.
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ThemightyOx
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| Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:36 AM |
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There are alot of players in the HOF with a lesser BA than Thome. They include Cal Ripken (same as Thome) Ernie Banks, Mike Schmidt, Eddie Mathews, Joe Morgan, Willie McCovey, Carlton Fisk, Johnny Bench, Brooks Robinson, Reggie Jackson, and Harmon Killibrew, A number of them have less hits than Thome and ALL of them have less homers.
Jim Thome is 19th in career OPS, 24th in slugging, 52nd in OBP, 7th in career HRs, 7th in walks, 20th in Extra Base Hits, 4th! in AB per HR (1 every 13.8)
If you want a recent inductee that is similar to Thome.. how about Frank Thomas. Thomas has a 24 point higher BA but less than 100 more hits and Thome has close to 300 more HRs. All the rest of their stats are very close to each other. And Thome spent more time in the field (versus DH) than Thomas did. |
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carthage44
Posts: 281
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| Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:23 AM |
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MightyOX, slight
correction. Thome
did not have close
to 300 HRs more
than Frank Thomas.
Thome had 612
career HRs and
Thomas had 521. So
by my calculations,
Thome had 91 more
HRs than Thomas. I
would not say that
is close to 300
more but close to
100 more HRs Thome
had than Thomas. It
could have been a
misprint on your
part or our ideas
of rounding up are
much different, LOL!
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ThemightyOx
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| Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:28 AM |
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Yeah.. my mistake. No idea why I put 300. It guess because it was almost 4AM lol. |
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switzr1
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| Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:47 PM |
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Regardless of whether you consider him a legend or not, this card was produced in 2001. He was no legend yet in 2001, that's for sure.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster. |
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