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Howintensive
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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:47 PM | |
Hey everyone, so I am a completely new to the whole trading and stuff online raquet, especially when it comes to shipping the cards. So, I humbly ask you veterans, what is the best way to ship cards to people within the USA? Fedex or USPS? What if it's one card? Ten cards? 50 cards? Envelopes, boxes, or bubble mailers? I need some guidance on this. I am completely lost here.
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vrooomed
Posts: 14,919
Joined: Dec 2012
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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:59 PM | |
Since I work for UPS, UPS! (Just kidding.)
If you want cheapest:
Single card is ok in a sleeve, in a top loader (end taped so the card doesn't slide out, in a regular envelope (forever stamp attached).
2 cards can fit side by side (long ways) in a standard #10 (long) envelope.
3 to about 20 or so: Packed in a team bag between 2 top loaders in a bubble mailer.
20 to 50: use 2 team bags with 4 top loaders (2 per bag) and sit them side by side in the bubble mailer.
More than 50 - find a box that's the right size, and whenever possible, double box. It's not worth the 25 cent savings to find out the cards were damaged in transit.
In almost all cases, USPS is the cheaper option. Until you get into the 10 pound range, then UPS may be able to do better.
Always use Top Loaders or at least use thicker corregated cardboard. Don't use cereal box cardboard. A lot of times, it is less thick than the card it's supposed to be protecting. Always seal the top of the top loader with tape or sticker to keep the card from sliding out during transit.
Any other questions, feel free to ask. I've been sending (and receiving) online stuff since about 1998.
Dan
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-- Dan -- Note: Please see my profile for more info regarding trading (section updated 3/4/2024). I have added a large portion of my inventory to the site, and currently have trading turned on (details are in my profile).
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Howintensive
Posts: 41
Joined: May 2014
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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:19 PM | |
Thanks for the tips; you've pretty much nailed it!
A little clarification- A "sleeve" is soft and flexible, and a "top loader" is rigid and tough, correct? And with the 2-card setup, the cards are in sleeve/toploader combos as well? I'm new to a lot of these terms since I have been more of a casual collector; my friends and I always used to call everything either a "sleeve" or a "card holder" growing up.
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Billy Kingsley
Posts: 7,512
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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:20 PM | |
Yes, the sleeve is
the flimsy, non-
rigid holder, (also
known as a penny
sleeve) whereas the
toploader is rigid
plastic. I always
ship in a bubble
mailer- unless I'm
sending so many I
need to use a box.
I'm really glad to
see you are asking
for advice on how
to do it right- so
many people are
clueless when it
comes to proper
card shipping and
have no desire to
do a better job;
for example,
earlier in 2014 I
bought two vintage
1948 Bowman cards
on ebay, the seller
put them in a penny
sleeve and wrapped
them in bubble
wrap, which they
taped around the
cards, then put
them in a regular
envelope...they
arrived undamaged,
but that is nothing
less than a
miracle. Don't do
that (lol)
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vrooomed
Posts: 14,919
Joined: Dec 2012
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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 6:15 AM | |
I've gotten a few sellers to refund my shipping charges when they sent things in an inferior way (in a couple cases even damaging cards - in which case, I got them to refund me completely). Taping cards in just sleeves to cardboard is annoying - you need a scapel to perform surgery on the tape so you don't bend your card.
Top loaders are the fully rigid holders that if they bend, they're broken. There are "semi-rigid" loaders (generally called "Card Savers") which honestly, are complete junk and cannot be trusted in a bubble mailer alone. One BIG dealer on ebay uses them exclusively, but when he ships, they are always between two heavy-duty corregated cardboard pieces. I've also gotten cards almost folded in half in card savers! (They weren't protected in the flimsy cardboard mailer.)
Yes, as Billy says, thanks for asking to make sure you do it correctly. There's really nothing more annoying than getting a great deal, and then they arrive damaged because of the shipping.
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-- Dan -- Note: Please see my profile for more info regarding trading (section updated 3/4/2024). I have added a large portion of my inventory to the site, and currently have trading turned on (details are in my profile).
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captkirk42
Posts: 2,267
Joined: May 2011
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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:16 AM | |
a few good suggestions (vroomed post there is excellent. I too have delt with having to perform surgery on tape) there but please NO TAPE. Unless you use "painters tape" or FRESH masking tape (ancient "dry" masking tape is a nono) or if you have paper or something else protecting the card from the tape, even in the proper toploaders a card can slip up to the edge and kiss the tape. It doesn't happen often but it can. And NEVER tape one of those "cardsavers" closed, those are the plastic sleeves that look like the plastic ID badge holders. Many sellers on Ebay and Sportlots use those (and PWEs) with the tape combination and I have had a couple of near dissasters a few times with a few cards some of them vintage.
My worst experience with a cardsaver fortunately had no damage but it was a high-value card that I got for a steal. http://captkirk42.blogspot.com/2010/11/white-whale-of-iron-man.html
I have blogged about cardsavers a couple of other times including that one above. http://captkirk42.blogspot.com/search/label/cardsaver
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I collect: Baseball, Football, Hockey, Mostly Vintage pre1980, My Homie teams - Washington/Baltimore Teams Senators (Twins, Rangers), Expos/Nationals, Redskins, Capitals, Bullets/Wizards - HOFers - Non-sport (mostly TV shows and movies). My Trade List is very much a work in progress CaptKirk42s Trading Card Blog Curly W Cards Strive For '65 YouTube klandersen42
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NJDevils
Posts: 6,343
Joined: Sep 2010
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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:04 AM | |
I have received things in a rigid top loader which were damaged. The post office machinery that the flats go through can smash anything that is rigid and not perfectly flat. Yes, they do go through but again, occasionally can be smashed/cracked which damages the card.
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Billy Kingsley
Posts: 7,512
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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:55 AM | |
One way to prevent
a card from
sticking to tape
holding the
toploader shut is
the put the penny
sleeve in upside
down. (So the
opening of the
penny sleeve is at
the bottom). One
other word of
advice- do not try
to jam a jersey
card into a regular
sized toploader.
Especially from
Upper Deck, where
they just have a
portion of the card
back wider to
accommodate the
jersey piece. That
will cause small
creases to appear
on the card at the
corners of the
jersey spot. (On
the other hand, I
have been
successfully able
to talk my way into
a free jersey card
when pointing out
that the seller
damaged it on more
than one occasion-
from the same
seller. I'd rather
have a damaged card
than no card at
all).
Like NJDevils says,
that is why I
always use a bubble
mailer. Plain white
envelopes are not
good for mailing
cards, under any
circumstances.
Within the next few
weeks I'm going to
be scanning my
serially numbered
cards, and I have
several redemptions
that were in a
toploader and a
plain manila
envelope that
arrived to me bent
in half.
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VERY slow trading due to health problems. Not transferrable so safe to trade with, just moving is painful and can't always access the cards. Cardboard History My COMC New Collection Website: Cardboard History Gallery (Still under construction) Tips on how to make your scans look like the card does in hand (No more washed out, fuzzy scans!):
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NJDevils
Posts: 6,343
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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:25 PM | |
One way to tape either a top loader or penny sleeve is to simply cut a small piece of paper, fold in half to cover the opening and tape it to the loader front and back. Have done this numerous times with no complaints. Also, to facilitate pulling a penny sleeve out of a top loader is to tape a narrow strip of paper to the penny sleeve and leave excess paper hangin out so the person can simply pull he paper and the penny sleeve comes right out of the top loader. No worry about someone mangling the card in the top loader.
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suomibear8
Posts: 793
Joined: Nov 2009
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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 6:44 PM | |
I would say never use PWE's unless agreed upon with the trader. Anything other than an envelope is consider non-machinable, which is the safest way to go. Toploaders, perhaps a team bag, and even a cheap bubble mailer at least. I also like it when people fold the toploader up inside a piece of paper. It makes the package "harder" and secures the card without using tape.
Just my 2 cents....
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