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ketchupman36
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:43 AM | |
Has there been a consensus made as to how patch letter sets should be listed in the DB? For instance, take this set: http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Subsets.cfm/sid/46571?PageIndex=1. The way the set works is that there is a letter patch for each letter of the person's name. So if their name was SMITH, there would be 5 different cards. However, the CL in this set just has 1 entry for each player.
Should the checklist entry have 5 different entries for Smith, or just 1? I think I've seen elsewhere that CL would 5 entries but I'm not sure if it has been established.
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Doc Floyd
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:58 AM | |
From what I've seen before here, there should be an entry for each letter.
Edit, BTW someone made a mess with that set, all those notes, and no definitions. But yet put in those stupid insert ratio letters.
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HutNut
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:01 AM | |
And based on the cards pictured, the number listed is the total of all cards for that player, so 400 for someone with a five letter name would mean 5 cards each SN80. Looks like a mess to sort out.
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tonym
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:10 AM | |
yes.. there should be an entry for each letter. I've been revising some CL when i have time. for most cases.. The one thing is, some of the numbering may vary for each particular set. For example.the last name: "Max" : in some cases the numbering will be SN1 for each letter and in others, Sn1, sn2, sn3. ... but in Note1 being used as MEM (JSY), SN1, Note2 Var: M.. also in the note2, the PR can be inserted for the name (there maybe multiple prints of each letter)
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dilemma19
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:59 AM | |
Edited on: Aug 25, 2016 - 10:36AM
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tonym
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Lea DeFoote
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:10 AM | |
In general, that could go either way, depending on the nature of the set.
I'll use this card from the originally posted set as an example:
http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/46571/cid/4354368/
It appears that every letter in his name is going to have the same card number: LAP-KS. So, if the 175 card print run includes all of the letters; S, H, E, T & S, then it would get one entry. If there are 175 of just the "T" card, and each letter has it's own separately numbered run (even if they are /175 also), then they should each get their own entry.
It makes more sense when the company numbers the cards right to begin with.
Press Pass used to make 'spellbound' sets where each card had a die-cut letter with the memorabilia showing through. Here's one:
2010 Press Pass Eclipse - Spellbound
In this set you can see that each card has a separate number, so even if a letter is repeated in a driver's name, each card is numbered to be a particular one.
-Tom
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tonym
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:27 AM | |
yes, i did another UD set like that for college.. the one thing about the SN's and PR on them you have look at ... for the easy ones (using the last name of "Max" ) the overall serial number would be SN3.. but M = 1/3, A= 2/3 and X=3/3.. .thats the easy one's.. another way they may be labled is: M= SN1, A=SN1 and X=SN1. for the UD set i did i had to list the PR in note2 with the letter variation. on this one, the SN is stamped on the card.. i think the note1 should contain that SN.. so note1 would have AU, MEM, SN175, note2 Var: T,,etc with remaining letters of his name.
another set i saw contained the name each with a SN stamped on it (like "MAX") but had a PR of 90,, so the M had 1/3 stamped and had 30 of each letter. took a few to track down and see, but its better when its stamped like that one
i guess my overall opinion is, yes, it be nice if things were somewhat consitant and uniformed, but as long as its neat, can be found and easliy identifable.. im a happy camper. just looking at other sets, there are different ways people submitted them. Unless Admin has a view on it, or if others want something more streamlined, maybe Admin can put an example of what they would like to see going forward in the Level 4 permission where the Note Fields are spoken of?
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CluelessJoe
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:43 AM | |
Dilemma19, you don't have a "terrible problem", you have a dilemma.
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dilemma19
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Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:36 AM | |
Good observation. I've edited my post accordingly.
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