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engineer67
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Tuesday, July 4, 2017 2:19 PM | |
Ok, let me see if i can explain this well. The insert set "1995 Signature Rookies Franchise Rookies" had a total of 10,000 sets made for a PR10000. Of that total, 2,575 were autographed of each player. SOOO should the PR of the non-autographed cards be "PR7425"? OR in this case we do not add a PR to the non-autographed set?
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C2Cigars
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Tuesday, July 4, 2017 3:42 PM | |
No, print run is 10000, so a Note of PR10000. And if the autographs are serial numbered then they also get a SN2575 note. Admin has made this clear to me. It can be very confusing to see it in the Notes, but Signature Rookies did it this way very frequently.
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Celticwolfco
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Tuesday, July 4, 2017 8:25 PM | |
C2 is correct. Even though the autographed cards still have the 10,000 print run stated on them, those were actually not included in the 10,000 non-signed cards produced, so technically there were 12,575 of each card produced, 10,000 were not signed, 2,575 were signed. Also, every now and then, they had a player who didn't sign all of the cards they were supposed to, so make sure all of the cards are actually #'d out of 2,575 when entering the SN2575 in the notes.
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SaintOrm
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Tuesday, July 4, 2017 8:57 PM | |
There's 10000 cards made, 2575 of them are signed. However, there is still only a total of 10,000 cards - not 12,575. The non-signed cards get the PR10000 & the autos get the SN2575, but do not get (or need) a PR notation as well.
Speaking of this set, only three of the ten front pictures in the "1 of 10,000" insert set are correct. The rest are actually scans of the "SAMPLE" card set.
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ranfordfan
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Tuesday, July 4, 2017 9:27 PM | |
Can I make a kick at the can?? First off, I would say that C2C obviously has a solid answer for what's what in this case but here is my take .... put PR10000 on all the cards as per C2C, and then simply add AU to all the autographed versions. Then if the auto versions are SNed add the SN#### to the note field as well. If the AUs are NOT SNed then add the information that 2475 of the cards are autos in the release notes. Make sense? Anyone else? =)
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sandyrusty
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Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:40 AM | |
Agree with ranfordfan. Could I add to those who create forums on specific sets to add the link to the set in their post? Difficult to assist or comment unless one can look at the set and exactly what one is referring to. In this case, I can't even tell what sport.
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C2Cigars
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Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:12 AM | |
He's referring to footall, 1995 Signature Rookies - Franchise Rookies Autographs
So, the question comes down to the Notes for these auotgraphed cards. Should it be "AU, SN2575" or "AU, SN2575, PR10000"?
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ranfordfan
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Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:49 AM | |
I thought about that as well C2C. PR10000, AU if no SN on the AUs ............. PR10000, AU, SN2475 if they are. Then you would say .... There are 10000 printed, said specific card is an AU that is SN to 2475 (as the SN would be visible on the card) That is my canadian logic, didnt say it was accurate. =D Your second choice would work in this manner perfectly fine as well ......... Said card is an AU, SNed to 2475 with a total print run of 10000. I guess it comes down to the guidelines and what is considered the standard Note order. I am pretty sure it is threre somewhere.
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Billy Kingsley
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Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:49 AM | |
"AU, SN2575, PR10000"
This would make the most sense.
I loathe Signature Rookies, as a company, by the way. I know that nobody cares what I like or don't like, I just needed to say it, LOL
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ranfordfan
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Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:02 AM | |
Just looked the set over and to me how it is displayed makes no sense without release notes. The sets look as if the non auto is PR10000 and the SN as another 2475. Should these not be almost a 1a and 1b situation since both sets are inclusive of the PR10000. If not the info REALLY needs to be added to the release notes. The variation being the AU itself.
And so far two gurus agree putting the poor canadian kid down 2-1 LOL
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