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switzr1
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Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:49 PM | |
For the record, i thought Mel Tillis had been dead for years. Second time that's happened lately.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster.
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Kaline6
Posts: 745
Joined: Nov 2014
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:33 AM | |
Then you've got your Al Capone and Ted Bundy cards. Where do you draw the line? Change it from "in memoriam" to "those who died on this date" if it offends. I am not offended, I could care less, they are dead.
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"He stood there like the house by the side of the road, and watched that one go by." - Ernie Harwell
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BOBSCARDZ
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Joined: Nov 2014
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 AM | |
I agree, change it to something that does not offend the masses but at least notes DOD. Subpage as opposed to front page may also be a good idea. We should be historically accurate but not offend members. I mean, if we allow the cards to be entered in the first place, we then should be at least correct in adding DOD or anything else.
~BOB~
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sandyrusty
Posts: 4,614
Joined: Dec 2014
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:34 AM | |
There is no intention of entering a false DOD just as there is no intention of removing cards just because of the person who is portrayed on the card. Once entered, Manson's date DOD will be accurate. It is just that it will only be entered once there are enough other death's after his to eliminate seeing him on the page.
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Bruno -------- Check my Profile page to see my 2023 Goals and my Lists of sets near completion (5 cards or less) or sets getting close (less than 100 cards missing and 75% complete). https://www.tcdb.com/Forum.cfm/Page/B/ID/0/?MODE=VIEW&ThreadID=25745&C=0
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jasongerman9
Posts: 1,896
Joined: Jan 2015
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:39 AM | |
Remember, the "In Memoriam" section is not like the "born on this date". It won't come up every year. It only shows when someone passes, and then it moves on. At least, I think that's right.
I believe we're going about it the right way. He doesn't deserve the title "In Memoriam" but his death date should be added, as Dan is planning to add it, once he will no longer be featured in that section.
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I'll never quit collecting entirely, but I am downsizing. Check out my COMC store and help me thin out what I don't want so I can buy cards that I do want. See something you like? Send me a message on here, and we can knock the price down quite a bit. I'll even take a bit of a loss if it means getting you a card you really want.
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Vvvergeer
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:00 AM | |
Um, I haven't reread the whole thread, but you just brought up a point I thought of: won't all these people also come up in the "Born Today" section? And does anyone care? It might be a bit different.
Since now I've kept the thread alive, I might as well spout my views. I agree that "In Memorium" is offensive for some people. I do not want to be the one to figure out who those people are. I don't want you (any of you, no offense) to be that person either. So I'd lean toward relabelling it to a neutral, factual, "Recently Deceased." I think "Born Today" is factual and neutral, and wouldn't need to be changed.
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jasongerman9
Posts: 1,896
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:03 AM | |
Actually, that would make sense. "Born Today" and "Recently Deceased" are exactly what V3 said: accurate, historical, and factual. If that were a change that would happen, I would be fully on board.
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I'll never quit collecting entirely, but I am downsizing. Check out my COMC store and help me thin out what I don't want so I can buy cards that I do want. See something you like? Send me a message on here, and we can knock the price down quite a bit. I'll even take a bit of a loss if it means getting you a card you really want.
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vrooomed
Posts: 14,826
Joined: Dec 2012
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 10:17 AM | |
I do believe that the Born Today people are handpicked - the same 5 display thoughout the day. There is no randomness to it. Mostly HOFers in their respective sports, or big names.
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-- Dan -- Note: Please see my profile for more info regarding trading (section updated 3/4/2024). I have added a large portion of my inventory to the site, and currently have trading turned on (details are in my profile).
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Kaline6
Posts: 745
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:02 PM | |
Hey...how about that! We held a open discussion on what could be deemed a "political correctness" issue, and the site didn't implode into chaos! The politicians should take note and learn.
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"He stood there like the house by the side of the road, and watched that one go by." - Ernie Harwell
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carthage44
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:01 PM | |
Manson had a card on the database and he died therefore he showed up on "In Memoriam" section. Who cares? I don't think anyone is celebrating his life because his card shows up in this section. If people are offended by seeing him on here then wait a few days and it will soon be off this list. If a change in the section title to "Died on this Date" or "Passed Away" might make people feel more comfortable, then go ahead and change it. I have no problem with seeing Manson's crazy face on here.
Side note: I would recommend the Netfix show "Mindhunter" based on the true story about two FBI agents in the 70's who interview serial killers to develop a criminal profile and criminal psychology. Manson is mentioned in the show. GREAT 10 EPISODE SERIES!!! Can't wait for the 2nd season next year.
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