2001 Leaf Certified Materials Football Forum

While going through this set, updating team names, using ebay as visual confirmation, I noticed some cards have variations of memorabilia. These are not just random variations, but on card printed variations. Some visually verified:

113 Chris Chambers helmet/jersey

115 Freddie Mitchell shoe/jersey

116 Koren Robinson 1) helmet/jersey 2) shoe/jersey

117 Quincy Morgan 1) shoe/jersey 2) helmet/jersey

120 Rod Gardner 1) helmet/jersey 2) football/jersey

123 Anthony Thomas 1) football/jersey 2) helmet/jersey

124 Deuce McAllister 1) football/jersey 2) shoe/jersey

127 Kevon Barlow 1) shoe/jersey 2) football/jersey

131 Rudi Johnson 1) helmet/jersey 2) football/jersey

134 Drew Brees 1) football/jersey 2) football/football

135 Chris Weinke 1) helmet/jersey 2) football/jersey

137 Chris McMahon 1) shoe/jersey 2) football/jersey

140 Dan Morgan football/jersey

My question is - should the cards with more than one variation be labeled 120A and 120B with variations hel/jsy, fb/jsy noted in Note 2? Or is that too in-depth and just label them MEM? If I have not explained it clearly please search ebay for the cards listed and you will see what I mean. Again, these are not just random variations but actually printed on the card what the memorabilia is.

my train of thought on this one is- I notice that Leaf / Certified do this occassionally with thier MEM2 and MEM3 cards all within the same insert sets. Beckett doesn't list them as separate variations.as they do witihin on other sets, so i'm guessing to leave as is- and you're right on that, most randomized Mem's say on the back,.. Game Worn Memorbillia, but these do say.. Game Worn Jersey and Glove or whatever it is. BUT.. i also guess it wouldn't hurt to add a Card#b and list it with the MEM in the note 2 field.

Please - always check with Admin on issues like this.

Admin's site - Admin's guidelines. :) Let's follow those guidelines and what Admin says.

Agreed Dan .......... then those "this checklist is a mess!" posts will slowly disappear. =D

But you can see my thinking, right?

i understand your thought. the mfr CL / becket also have one card listed. Certified Materials are nasty when it comes to these cards esp on the triple MEM's..shoe/jsy/helmet... shoe/glove/jsy ... glove/jsy/helmet  .etc.they have different MEM's on cards but listed as one card, unlike a stated variation (if thats what you want to call it) where the MRF designates the card as a card#xxB, or card# xx2. The CL has just the one, just keep as is to make it easy, and like Dan, double check w/ admin and go from there

I realize that this is slightly different, but this is very similar to jersey cards with different color swatches. A MEM card is a MEM card is a MEM card. Let's keep it in perspective. It's triple or double MEM.

Yes, I can see what you're saying. The card numbers are the same but the actual text printed on the front and/or back of the cards are different.  But with these multiple MEM cards, I'd ask Admin for a ruling.

Like Dan stated, a MEM card is a MEM card. I'm also one who uses only MEM in Note 1 on multiple MEM cards, with expanded description in Note 2 (jersey, glove, helment, etc).

My humble apologies - I missed the fact that there are variances in what is actually printed on the card. Looks like this will be one of those ever expanding sets. And yes, I think they should be listed here as separate entities.

I wrote the same note to admin.

My 'plan' was to list the card as: card#A, name, note 1 MEM, SN, team, note 2 describing actual memorabilia (i.e.football/jersey) then card#B with note 2 helmet/jersey or shoe/jersey.

This only applies to the rookie cards in the last third of the set.

If anything, I can just place descriptions in note 2 section.