1990-91 Pro Set Hockey Forum

The way I see it, there is the listed Beckett value and there is the going price. On average cards tend to sell for about half of what they're worth, but that can vary greatly. Depending on the card and how in demand it is, it can sell for anywhere from 10% to 90% of its actual value. But I don't consider the selling price to be the true value, to me the true value is what is listed in Beckett. The selling price is merely what it sells for. Some cards just tend to often sell for much less than what they're really worth, especially retired players who are out of sight/out of mind to the average collector.

I have to agree DaveK_ND.   baddchad20, I thought about that option as well.  problem is the price of the book compared to the magazine.  ...aand I can't find one yet...

The prices of the older cards don't change that much in the book as opposed to the mag. There is a list towards the end of the magazine that should have the unlisted stars.

http://amzn.com/1936681927

 maybe it should show the member name of who enters a price when a price is added to the database so its not anonymous if someone decides to enter that a card is worth hundreds of dollars more than it actually is 

Ok, I see where your coming from... but say it's just a typo?  We can't label everyone an, (and I use this very loosely, quite humorously,) "IDIOT" because the card is worth $1.00 and they forgot to add the .

It would be interesting to see what person a and person b believe a cards value is, though.  it might be too much data to keep for the site but say, for example "Bob101" sets a card at $0.45 and then three days later "Joe236" decides it's worth $4000... we could see a list of previous prices on the card with the name of the user.  Joe236 could very well have typo'd and not caught it.  ...Or he could be stacking the deck to make his pile look better.  You find three other cards priced by Joe at exhorbitant amounts then you know Joe is not a reliable source of information.  Sorry if my random user names happen to be user names...

Again.  that is a lot of data to keep up with.  It does have a use and a purpose.

The problem I have with that is that Joe236 is now Judged as unreliable.  All be it was probably earned, it's not fair to him to single him out with that unreliable spotlight. 

... ... still if you were held accountable for your entries like that... we'd probably see less $0.05 cards priced at rediculous rates...

 I agree that some could be typos... but then we have something like this:

Firstly, you've educated me.  I didn't know the site was already keeping tabs on previous entries... secondly... the probable solution is probably to limit who has access to that feature, give them a time trial when they ask about it, and ban them from editing that feature when 14 commons show up with outlandish pricing pops up under their account... this all being said after my speel on taking on more responsabilities so Admin doesn't have to...

Or simplify.  report rediculous prices to admin, admin have details on who's listed it at said rediculous price, delete entry, and deny any further price entries from that user.

A few things with regards to pricing:

If you click on a price, you can see a breakdown of the prices that were reported to make up that price.

The site uses a median calculation to determine the totals that are displayed.  This means that it goes with the most popular price that’s been reported.  If there isn’t a most popular, then it takes an average. 

For example, if two people report the price to be $1 and one person reports the price to be $100, it will go with $1.  If one person says $1 and one person says $100, then it will calculate it as $50.50. 

So it’s helpful to report pricing even for things that already contain pricing in order to establish a norm.  This will prevent someone from reporting an outlandish price and throwing the whole total out of whack. 

This brings us to outlandish pricing.  One thing to consider is that if a card is graded and it’s a pristine 10, then it could be worth considerably more, even for worthless commons.  So it may be that it’s a graded card, or of course, accidents do happen and it could have been mis-keyed. 

So starting November 15, the site will start displaying the member’s names next to the reported prices.  This is not meant to try to embarrass anyone, just for quality control purposes.  Please refrain from harassing anyone over prices they have entered, instead enter in what you think the correct price should be and the calculation will pick the most popular price to display in the total.

Every member has the ability to remove any pricing they have entered.  When looking at the breakdown page, there should be an "x" next to any prices you have reported.  Every member also has the ability to override the site’s pricing when it comes to their own collection.  When looking at a set in collection mode, if you click “Update Pricing” on the right, you can enter in your own pricing instead of using the site’s prices.

For those of you scouring the auction sites on a daily looking at the completed sales, feel free to enter in that pricing over here and be sure to include the auction’s completion date.  After more than one date has been entered for a particular card, there is a graph generated on the page where you can see how the card has been trending over time.

Thanks everyone for the feedback and we’ll continue to tweak this thing as we go along.


The Trading Card Database

I was just entering the prices that I paid on eBay for some cards, and noticed that there had been a trend on some past entries of the same individual entering the same price multiple times within a short period of time. For instance, for my #213 Jeff Chychrun card, someone had entered a value of 5 cents a total of nine times over two days. While I am not worried about the price (I only paid .07), it's got me wondering if some people have been doing multiple entries to heavily influence the median price. It kind of ruins the potential for averaging out a true median price from multiple sources.

Wow!  way to kick up a dead thread! ;)  

Actually I had been thinking about the pricing on here...I use it only as a MAYBE guide and to get an idea of what I can bid on online auctions ;)

BUT...to what I have been thinking.....would it be possible to set the permissions on entering prices to only those that have a store front of some type (ebay, comc, actual brick and mortar).  Then, if they feel so inclined to input the price of what someone has paid for their card.  Shipping wouldn't be included or anything else.  They could just say I sold X for $Y and off we go....this would allow for a bit more reliable price on cards?

Only a suggestion....I have no idea how tough this would be to implement or if it is even possible???