1962 Topps Baseball Forum

I'm down to about 20 missing cards from the 1962 Topps set.  One of the only two star cards I have left are a Mickey Mantle All-Star card and a Bob Gibson card.  I buy and sell a lot of cards on Ebay and often make transactions quickly.  As a buyer, I fully expect honesty from dealers in advertising their cards as accurately as possible.  I rarely leave negative feedback, but cjh118lfh will most likely be recieving negative feedback from me.  See link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Topps-Mickey-Mantle-471-/162013328021?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=RtYPCR%252B17Zmdf2A5FHC%252FyOXDTn4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

A 1962 Topps #471 Mickey Mantle All-Star is valued at $200.  In Poor condition it is worth 5%-10% BV, which comes out to about $10-$20.  Mantles always seem to sell higher than others regardless of condition, so I'm always on the lookout for a $20 Mantle that I can live with.  Well, I thought that I found one.  It looked a little strange, but I found it with little time to bid, so I put my $20 bid on it and won.  There was no mention of reprint in the title, but after receiving the item, I noticed that I had missed the mention in the write-up; however, even in the write-up, the seller was vague in the way he admitted to the card being a reprint.

The card I received was not just a reprint, but was a counterfeit made to look original.  First, the card is made of a plastic-type material.  Water would reflect off of this thing.  It was scratched-up and dirtied to look old, but it obviously was not.  Of course, we should all attempt to be as discriminating as possible before making purchases, but even in the academic arena of economics, the concept of "buyer beware" is no longer an acceptable practice in America. 

I buy and sell reprints, no one would ever mistakenly purchase one as an original by the clear advertisement I present.

  Unless the write-up was changed,  it does say "reprint" in two different places. Yes, it should say it in the title line.  Granted it seems confusing because who would want a reprint in that bad shape but that's why you have the capability to  ask questions.     Also it says "vintage" which it isn't.   Again, ask question and unfortunately, "caveat emptor".

Update:  I found another '62T #471 Mantle AS card for less than I paid for the lower grade counterfeit.  You can never be too careful.  A seller that practices by "Buyer beware" won't and shouldn't be in business long.  Word gets out. 

Go get 'em.  I hate crooks.  They have tarnished our hobby for way too long.

 1)  Ask for a refund.    2) File a complaint with Ebay.

Name the seller.  Out the guy.

Yes, scammers sucks. I am either working on the current year Topps set or working on 1968 and back, and one of my biggest worries is getting sold a reprint when I think I am getting an original. I know it doesn't always help, but if I have even the slightest doubt, I keep away from bidding on the item.

Since it comes through the mail, wouldn't that also constiture  mail fraud?   As long as the seller omits the word "reprint", I would think it would be fraud.

I'm struggling here. I'm terrified of reprints. It's even made me turn to buying some graded cards. But the description says "Selling as reprint." The details say: "reprint." I'm sorry the original poster spent twenty bucks on a card that he thought was an original. But how is this mail fraud or even an eBay complaint? It says "reprint." Well, it says "selling as reprint." There's no way is risk buying that card unless I, er, wanted a reprint. What am I missing? It's fraud because the title doesn't say reprint? If you see an ad that says "free printer" you're not responsible for reading the part where it says you have to buy a computer first?  This isn't "buyer beware," it's "buyer pay just a little bit of attention."

There are plenty of frauds on eBay, many of which have been pointed out on this site, but this guy just doesn't seem to be one of them? Sure, never buy from him again. Ok  But, "Go get him"?!? What'd he do?

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I seem to be fiesty tonight. I like to keep the site friendly, but I gotta say this is bugging me. The poster hurriedly put in a bid without reading the description -- which is about eight words long, 1/8 of the words being "reprint." That's imprudent, at best. But I suppose it can happen when you stumble upon what looks to be a great deal (although, that should probably be a hint that something's wrong). But after his initial error, did the buyer then read the description before paying? When he had plenty of time? Apparently not, because he paid, rather than say to himself, "Oh dang. I screwed up. This is 'selling as a reprint.' I wonder if the seller will let me out of this deal." Nope, just paid in his excitement to get a cheap Mantle. Then, before it shipped, did he read the eight word description? You know, to be sure he wasn't blowing twenty bucks? Apparently not. He actually waited to receive the card before he ever bothered to check the description. Then he read it. And his reaction was not, "Oh dang. I screwed up. This was 'selling as reprint.' I wonder if I can get a refund. I'll probably have to eat the shipping. Bummer. I'll be more careful next time." No. The reaction is to get on here and blast the seller. 

And the reactions from the members here are to pile onto the seller? Really? One other person seemed to actually look at the description before responding to the post, and noted that it said "reprint." But then he seems to have changed his mind, too. 

Again, I'm sorry. This isn't a good seller, and I'd never buy from him. But this incident is the buyer's fault. And society's fault for creating a culture where if we make a mistake we immediately have to blame someone else. 

Sorry for the soapbox, but that's how I am sometimes. 

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