2018 Panini Immaculate Collection Baseball Forum

Looking at two sources, including Panini and The Cardboard Connection, it looks like the base set starts with #48 not #1. Am I correct? If so, shouldn't #s 1-47 be an insert set "Rookie Patch Autographs"? 

That’s my understanding as well (base starting at 48). It’s an unusual set.  A case could be made that the first 47 are just a subset. But given that the main red, blue, gold, blue parallels are only starting at card #48 it seems to imply the “true” base set starting at 48.

It seems like this set breaks all the norms of base set numbering.  Have some new ones in ready to scan. Do we need to change the checklist first?  Would be good to know if the TCDB knows a precedent for the first cards numbered 1-47 actually being an insert instead of base set and the base actually starting at 48.

 its backwards  to me. usually the RC autos are at the end at the CL, in this case, 1-47 are the rook auto and picks up at 48 and up- leave it panini to make things difficult

https://www.beckett.com/search/?term=2018+Immaculate+Collection&sport=185223&year_start=2018&rowNum=25&page=1

http://www.paniniamerica.net/dspFullChecklistbyID.cfm?prod=683

I've submitted an IR on this because after looking through ALL the checklists, the rookie autos have to be listed as an insert not as part of the base set. I'll try to whittle down the other checklists that have no such issues to deal with.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-panini-immaculate-collection-baseball-cards 

We have the listings correct. The cards #1-47 are from a subset called "Rookie Patch Autographs."  So they should be in the base set. This subset has several parallels that will be listed along with the base parallels. Such as Blue, Gold, Platinum 1/1, and Printing Plates 1/1. But several of the subset parallels will be listed as Insert sets because the base parallels do not appear in these: Button, Brand Logo, and Tag 1/1.

There is a rookie autograph set "Rookie Debut Signatures", that might cause confusion because they are SN99, similar to the Rookie Patch Autographs subset cards.
 

Edit: Take a look at the 2018 Panini Immaculate Collegiate Football set listed on the database. As tonym stated, this is a set where Panini usually has the rookie subsets in the back of the base set checklist. https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-immaculate-collection-collegiate-football-cards The first 35 cards are from Panini's "Base Set" listing, but we include the Subsets: Immaculate Numbers Memorabilia (36-60), Base Autographs (61-85), Immaculate Ink Combos (86-100), Rookie Patch Autographs (evens 102-148), Immaculate Signature Rookie Patches (odds 101-149), and finally Rookie Autographs (151-165). 

For me this has been very confusing.  Set containing Auto, Mem, serial numbered cards (diff /xx even) and non numbered cards all listed under one set name..

When I started my excel file I inputted the way I though they should be.    Down the road I  did some changing to match Beckett naming as I started to find cards there.  Now that I'm here.  I have had to do some more changing to match this database.   No problem with changes just wish I know what is what.   I'm happy that I stopped building sets.   

This site has been very helpful plus the guys here are great when you have a problem.  The biggest issue has been finding the card which I have and get my excel file to match the listing here.   

For this one, don't blame us (tcdb), don't blame Beckett, the blame lies squarely on Panini.

The first 47 cards are completely different, have different parallels and are fine being numbered 1-47.

The 100-card base set has a different look, no MEM, and different parallels from that set that is 1-47. Unfortunately, Panini thought it would be cool to number these not 1-100, but 48-147. Really Panini? Why?

It's very obvious that cards 48-147 are the "base" set, with the usual rainbow of parallels. Whatever the name of the "set" is that is 1-47 is an insert set like any other Jersey set, with it's array of parallels.

SDC probably has the best grasp on Panini's circus. Really, because of their history, sets formatted like this coming from them doesn't surprise me in the least. The surprising thing is that the cards actually have numbers on the back that match their published checklist. Now that's a BIG shock.

I'd agree with you.  The Panini website shows the Base set starting at #48.

The thing is, too, if you think logically - and I doubt Panini thought about it this way, at least initially - how can SN's be part of a base set?