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NJDevils
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Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:12 AM | |
This has been bugging me for a while. I will use my idol, Yogi Berra, as an example. In the data base, he is listed as Yogi Berra. Click on his hame and under info for him, his name is listed as "Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra". His alias is "Larry Berra". Click on Ed "Too Tall" Jones and his name is listed as "Ed Too Tall Jones"....no quotes around the nickname.
Others have a nickname as an alias, etc. Names for movie stars are even worse, since most take a stage name. This should provide some Sunday discussion. Let's come up with a standard if there isn't one already. Even though it is unseasonably warm, it will get wintry and this is something to work on all winter, fixing names.
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Billy Kingsley
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C2Cigars
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Sunday, December 13, 2015 11:14 AM | |
I've also removed many nicknames from their given names. Nicknames belong in the Alias: or in some cases, i.e., Yogi Berra, it's used as the PID name.
Billy Kingsley wrote: Nicknames should not be in the real name section. I've removed several. The real name section was born from a desire to list the real name of people with nicknames. Unless Yogi or Too Tall were their given names, they should not be in there.
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switzr1
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Monday, December 14, 2015 8:43 AM | |
Alias should be a secondary name, or secondary version of a same name, that is used on cards, which could include a nickname, use/non-use of punctuation marks, or use/non-use of a word like Jr. The alias feature is there because the site searches checklists and can match a guy to either version of his name. This way, if I upload baseball checklists with R.A. Dickey, and you upload baseball checklists with RA Dickey, the site recognizes that they are the same person. And the site now knows that early cards of Michael Trout are actually Mike Trout. None of his Michael cards were matched to his name before the Alias feature existed. The most useful addition to the site since I've been a member. A guy like Yogi Berra should have Yogi as his primary name, but if Topps suddenly started issuing Archive cards calling him Lawrence, it would be a time-saver to enter Lawrence Berra as his alias.
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C2Cigars
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Monday, December 14, 2015 8:56 AM | |
I wonder, would the database recognize a checklist containing "Lawrence Berra" since it's listed in his profile as his Full Name? Admin?
switzr1 wrote: Alias should be a secondary name, or secondary version of a same name, that is used on cards, which could include a nickname, use/non-use of punctuation marks, or use/non-use of a word like Jr. The alias feature is there because the site searches checklists and can match a guy to either version of his name. This way, if I upload baseball checklists with R.A. Dickey, and you upload baseball checklists with RA Dickey, the site recognizes that they are the same person. And the site now knows that early cards of Michael Trout are actually Mike Trout. None of his Michael cards were matched to his name before the Alias feature existed. The most useful addition to the site since I've been a member. A guy like Yogi Berra should have Yogi as his primary name, but if Topps suddenly started issuing Archive cards calling him Lawrence, it would be a time-saver to enter Lawrence Berra as his alias. |
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Lea DeFoote
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Monday, December 14, 2015 9:34 AM | |
Does the database allow for multiple aliases?
-Tom
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switzr1
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Monday, December 14, 2015 9:38 AM | |
No it doesn't. As a wrestling fan, I would support such a thing. Jimmy Snuka, Jimmy Superfly Snuka, Superfly Jimmy Snuka, and Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka are all printed in various card sets.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster.
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switzr1
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Monday, December 14, 2015 9:39 AM | |
C2, I think the answer to your question is No, but I'm trying to find a specific example to back this up.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster.
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C2Cigars
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Monday, December 14, 2015 9:47 AM | |
Plus, there's a character limit. And I haven't seen proper alias format explained. Should it just be the nickname "Superfly" or nickname and last name "Superfly Snuka".
Also, I've tested this alias feature numerous times. It's never worked for me. I've had checklists ready for import, checked that an alias was in a player's profile, purposely put the alias in the checklist, and uploaded. The database has never recoginzed the alias; neither format "nickname & last name" nor "nickname".
switzr1 wrote: No it doesn't. As a wrestling fan, I would support such a thing. Jimmy Snuka, Jimmy Superfly Snuka, Superfly Jimmy Snuka, and Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka are all printed in various card sets. |
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Lea DeFoote
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Monday, December 14, 2015 9:59 AM | |
I'm not sure why that didn't work for you C2C. Did you try the Check Names link too? I recently added "Lake Speed's Car" as an alias in the profile of driver Lake Speed, then I went back to a set where "Lake Speed's Car" was displayed as plain text in the checklist. I hit the Check Names link, then went right back the the checklist and reloaded it, and "Lake Speed's Car" was a hyperlink to Lake Speed's profile.
Is there any reason the linking would work for the Check Names link differently than when the checklist is uploaded?
Could the answer to multiple aliases be that we have the alternate names added to the database and then merged with the main name? Or does the merge eliminate the alternate one?
-Tom
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Ted Musgrave card collection 98.9% Complete: Cards Known: 1013, Cards Owned: 1002 I prefer the company of people who disagree with me for the right reasons over the company of those who agree with me for the wrong reasons.
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