General Forum

I've seen instances, at least in NASCAR cards, where a driver will sign a card in blue ink and then switch to black for the rest, or vice versa. For these these cards, I've seen nearly as many of each ink version. There is no difference between each card other than the color pen used by the signer. They are not numbered.

Is this enough to constitute a variation in the database, or just some odd occurrence most people wouldn't care about?

These cards are not the same as say the 1999 Press Pass Signings of Jimmy Makar, where he signed in both black and blue inks, but have separate serial numbers.

I'm attempting to complete the 2005 Press Pass Autograph set (which the Bill Lester is a part of), so I wanted both versions I saw. 

Only if the manufacturer makes it point to note the different colors. Otherwise, it's the same card.

Well. tbh blue is different than black and it may have less of one color than the other. Also one ink may look better based on card color etc.... However that is my thoughts 🤣

What's irritating to me, but I should realize this does happen over time, are autographs that fade out. In particular the Upper Deck Sweet Spot Sweet Stitch variations. 

nerd, it's the same as when material in a MEM card is different colors. As long as the cardboard is the same, doesn't matter what additions have been made, it's still the same card, according to TCDB rules.

According to what you're saying, card 001/100 is different from 002/100, 003/100, 004/100, etc. Should there be a site that has a spot for every serial-numbered card? (TCDB won't be that site.)

That's the equivalent.

Well I never said I disagreed with TCDB rules I just said I think one color may look nicer than a different color based on the color of the card. Then again depending on the card they may not