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Lennoxmatt

Posts: 249
Joined: Oct 2015

Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:49 PM

I only enter teams if I have the card in hand to see, and only add a card to my collection if it is PC, no point in adding traders or sellers, I will however scan any card I get that isn't already scanned

Billy Kingsley wrote:

What's really a pain is when you have a retired player and the front and back of the card shows two different teams.

I personally don't think unlicensed cards should be tagged to any team at all. I won't enter them or college cards (which are usually incorrectly tagged to professional teams) into my collection on here so it doesn't mess up the team listing.

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lennoxmatt

vrooomed

Posts: 14,955
Joined: Dec 2012

Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:17 PM

Actually, validating it means that you've verified that all the team listing are correctly identified. If they are not correctly identified, then you validating the set is incorrect. It then takes it off the list so that someone who may know how to correct it cannot see that it needs work to be done.

I will reiterate - if the teams are not complete, do not validate the set. Leave for someone else who has the info.

mbarlow092 wrote:

marking it validated doesn't prevent anyone from adding teams once they have the card in hand, it is impossible to tell what team a card belongs to from a blank checklist and considering I do hundreds of checklists, I am not going to hunt individual teams, nor am I going to leave a checklist open ended simply because the team isn't listed. It is usually simple to tell by looking at the card and validating it changes nothing

vrooomed wrote:

If a set is missing team information, please do not validate it. Leave it for when we have all the information. It's better for a set to be left undone than for it to be marked done erroneously.

mbarlow092 wrote:

Team ID can be a pain since some products such as Leaf don't have teams assigned, or other products have all star teams, in these cases it is impossible to tell without seeing the physical card, for these I validate the list as I enter them and individual teams can always be added later as people get the cards.

Althought since All Star Team cards usually have players in their All Star uniforms I maintain that it should be entered as a team with a TID, but I have beet shot down in that quest before

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ketchupman36

Posts: 787
Joined: Feb 2016

Friday, May 19, 2017 12:01 AM

Please do not validate if all the teams are not listed. It can create a real black hole in the database. Sure it doesn't prevent anyone from adding teams but how are people supposed to know that a checklist needs teams if it has already been validated?

I know it feels nice to check sets off the validation list but not at the expense of completeness.

mbarlow092 wrote:

vrooomed wrote:

If a set is missing team information, please do not validate it. Leave it for when we have all the information. It's better for a set to be left undone than for it to be marked done erroneously.

mbarlow092 wrote:

Althought since All Star Team cards usually have players in their All Star uniforms I maintain that it should be entered as a team with a TID, but I have beet shot down in that quest before

Lennoxmatt

Posts: 249
Joined: Oct 2015

Friday, May 19, 2017 9:02 AM

alright I won't, but I wish luck to anyone wanting to do team list for thse sets because you will have to google and ebay search every individual card

ketchupman36 wrote:

I know it feels nice to check sets off the validation list but not at the expense of completeness.

mbarlow092 wrote:

vrooomed wrote:

If a set is missing team information, please do not validate it. Leave it for when we have all the information. It's better for a set to be left undone than for it to be marked done erroneously.

mbarlow092 wrote:

Althought since All Star Team cards usually have players in their All Star uniforms I maintain that it should be entered as a team with a TID, but I have beet shot down in that quest before

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lennoxmatt

vrooomed

Posts: 14,955
Joined: Dec 2012

Friday, May 19, 2017 9:10 AM

That's kinda the idea. Validating a set that doesn't have all the teams listed is pointless.

mbarlow092 wrote:

alright I won't, but I wish luck to anyone wanting to do team list for thse sets because you will have to google and ebay search every individual card

ketchupman36 wrote:

I know it feels nice to check sets off the validation list but not at the expense of completeness.

mbarlow092 wrote:

vrooomed wrote:

If a set is missing team information, please do not validate it. Leave it for when we have all the information. It's better for a set to be left undone than for it to be marked done erroneously.

mbarlow092 wrote:

Althought since All Star Team cards usually have players in their All Star uniforms I maintain that it should be entered as a team with a TID, but I have beet shot down in that quest before

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dilemma19

Posts: 239
Joined: Jul 2015

Friday, May 19, 2017 9:18 AM
Would it be reasonable/feasible to disable set validation if there are any cards with missing teams?

Lea DeFoote

Posts: 1,534
Joined: Jul 2012

Friday, May 19, 2017 9:40 AM
No, because there are valid reasons for a card to not have a team association. Checklists and trophy cards come to mind. -Tom ------------------------------- Ted Musgrave card collection 98.9% Complete: Cards Known: 1013, Cards Owned: 1002 I prefer the company of people who disagree with me for the right reasons over the company of those who agree with me for the wrong reasons.

bevans

Posts: 436
Joined: Oct 2016

Friday, May 19, 2017 9:56 AM

Yeah, I wasn't sure what to do with unlicenced cards either. Take this set for example:

http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Subsets.cfm/sid/5094/1994-95-Upper-Deck-Be-a-Player---Gretzky's-99-All-Stars

The early Be a Player sets were not licenced by the NHL and featured no NHL team names or logos. So it didn't make sense to me to enter NHL team names when I did the scans. And it would seem especially offensive to do so for this particular insert set, which commemorated the barnstorming all-star team Wayne Gretzky took on the road during the 1994 NHL lockout. So I entered "Wayne Gretzky's 99 All-Stars" as the team name because that's how they billed themselves.

Billy Kingsley wrote:

What's really a pain is when you have a retired player and the front and back of the card shows two different teams.

vrooomed

Posts: 14,955
Joined: Dec 2012

Friday, May 19, 2017 10:11 AM

Not sure if this is what you meant, but...

Set validation can only occur once name, team, note, and number validation have occurred. So if team validation hasn't occured, set validation is locked.

If you meant locking out vaildation until all cards have teams, I would be ok with that IF selecting "No Team" counted as a "team". Right now, you still get the dreaded red box even when No Team has been selected. (I tested that too a while back.)

dilemma19 wrote:

Would it be reasonable/feasible to disable set validation if there are any cards with missing teams?

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C2Cigars

Posts: 11,470
Joined: Oct 2014

Friday, May 19, 2017 12:29 PM

I've never liked or understood why "No Team" gets a red box. If we research and verify a card has No Team then it should be accepted as such.

vrooomed wrote:

Not sure if this is what you meant, but...

Set validation can only occur once name, team, note, and number validation have occurred. So if team validation hasn't occured, set validation is locked.

dilemma19 wrote:

Would it be reasonable/feasible to disable set validation if there are any cards with missing teams?

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