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Your guess in the last sentence is correct.

Movie cards should not be linked to the actor playing them unless it's specifically saying "So and so Played by This Guy". Please, don't. It messes up the collection counts for both the person being linked AND the character when they have cards, as for example the Star Wars cards do.

It's the same basic principle of why we don't link the the people in the background on sports cards- just because they are on the card, does not mean it's a card of them.

I disagree.  If I'm a fan of a specific actor, then I want all those cards of him/her, regardless of what role they are playing.

Also, if Shaq is an actor he should get a Non-Sport PID in addition to his Basketball PID.  Just like two-sport athletes.

Thanks for the answer. I now know the answer, should I HAPPEN to come across a card like this again in the future. I still haven't really touched my NBA/NHL cards on here yet. That Shaq card was in with my comic cards (now in the NBA Shaq collection). Who knows what I might find mis-placed when I get to those.

Two-sport athletes only get one PID, but it's different for them, because the cards are both about them. The movie and tv cards are not about the person who's playing the role- it's about the role and nothing more, unless it's a card specifically saying who played the role- or an autograph of the actor. Those do exist and should be tied to both PIDs- movie scenes should not, because they are not about the actor, they are about the role.

Again, as I said before- we don't tag the people defending or a teammate standing in the background- we don't even tag all the people in a team photo card. That's the same principal, they may be on the card but it's not their card.

Here's an example to prove my point:

This card should be tagged to Luke Skywalker AND Mark Hamill:(currently tagged to neither)

This card is ONLY Luke Skywalker, making no mention whatsoever of the actor who played him, and should be tagged to Luke only- and it is, because Luke Skywalker has a PID.

Do you seriously think this card should be tagged to every extra who could fit into an X-Wing pilot's suit? Using your argument, it should be.

Currently, it's not tagged to anyone, which is correct, because it's just a movie scene.

How about this one? It was voiced by the guy who played the character in the movie, but that's all it was- a voiceover. Should this be tagged to the voice actor? it doesn't even really look like him.

Using your argument, this card should be tagged to every person on the card, because there's somebody out there collecting them. Yet currently it's not tagged to anyone.

This would be more of a candidate for tagging each and every one of the people on this card- they are actually themselves, and are nothing but themselves- they just happen to be pictured with a lot of other people.

In the time it took me to post my previous reply, several replies showed up and I didn't see them until just now. I was only replying to the message about non-sport not crossing over from sports athletes. Sorry to disagree with you Billy, but that Shaq card should be linked to Shaq period. The scans were already there to prove it. Shaq is mentioned by name 3 times on the back.

http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/79517/cid/9530925/1996-Donruss-Kazaam-Movie-NNO-Shaquille-O'Neal

Billy, you are rambling in that post. A team photo MLB card should not be tagged to any specific player b/c there are a couple dozen players there. I disagree with your Star Wars cards though. If "Luke Skywalker" (a fictional character) has a PID, any card showing a picture of him from the original Star Wars movies should also be linked to Mark Hamill. Your Freedom Fighters card is the exact same as an MLB team photo and no one should get a link. That's nearly impossible to link anyway.

I have no idea what your "voice-actor" card is, but it looks like a cut-out standee-style of card. I don't know what that's from, but maybe having the voice-actor listed would explain it. I'm not saying it should be done, but that has nothing to do with the cards we are talking about in this thread. I was originally talking about an actual athlete with a PID here clearly being on a non-sport card! It's not like I said Lisa Simpson needs to be tagged on a specific NBA card instead of Yeardley Smith!

Billy and I had this discussion on my blog last week.  I bought a Blue Chips set (the Nick Nolte movie featuring Shaq) and questioned if the cards with him should be linked to him on the database.  He disagreed, but I was going to bring it up on here to discuss.

I think any cards with Shaq on them should be linked to him.  If I collected him, I may not have known they made Blue Chips cards and would be prone to seek them out.  Same with Penny Hardaway who also has cards in the set.  I understand if you do collect a guy and don't care if he's in movies, but maybe a future addition to the site could be to filter out non-sport cards for athletes. 

Really, Adam? YOU are accusing me of rambling? Whatever you say. 

Something I didn't even think of before, what about the fact that linking an actor to any role they have been in will totally obliterate the ability to find the cards of just the actor? Do we really want to lose the searchability function of one of the major aspects of the hobby? 

Who would collect cards of an actor but not of the roles they have played?  Even if they do, is it really that hard to look through a list or gallery and make the judgement; "I want this card, not that one,..." etc.?  I have to agree with C2Cigars on this one, at least with my current understanding of Database function and protocol.  That said, I understand your position, Billy, that the card's 'Name' field should be reserved for the subject of the card.  So what is the proper solution?  Is this an appropriate use of the 'Tags' function?  In the case of movie and TV cards, should the Name field and PID links be reserved strictly for the subject, and the actor tagged?  I've never used tags, so really don't know how they function.

And as a counterpoint, this card is in my Ted Musgrave collection:

I can pick him out in the picture.  If I were starting out fresh today, I would expect to be able to use the Database to find out that Ted is on this card. If someone can explain the proper way to capture that information here for future generations, please do.

-Tom