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switzr1
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:31 AM | |
I'm a little curious about the set entries "2014 College Schedule Cards" and "2015 College Schedule Cards" under Misc. sports. These same cards seem to also show up as individual sets for each college. None of them appear to have scans, so I can't be sure. My thoughts are less about the legitimacy of these cards, and more about whether they are duplicate entries. Does anyone know what these are? Is there an actual set that includes schedule cards for Johns Hopkins, Hobart, and Boston College? I'm assuming these are lacrosse schedules due to the colleges included, and the category they fall under.
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C2Cigars
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:33 AM | |
IMO, these entries shouldn't even exist. There is no single release of college schedule cards. Each individual college/university releases their own schedules for each sport in any format/design of their choosing. There's also no way to checklist all the schedules released by all the colleges in the United States. We're talking hundreds upon hundreds of schedules to compile.
If we're going to list schedules, they should be listed under each individual college as a Team Issue. In most cases, a schedule card is a single card with one or more players shown on the front, not a multitude of different card fronts. Here's a good example of an actual set of team schedule cards; each team member has a schedule card.
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switzr1
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:11 PM | |
Good example! Also, back to my point, these cards are in here both ways. If you browse misc. Sports by set, click 2015, you will see what I mean. Somebody entered a Notre dame set, a Colgate set, etc. Someone else listed the same schedules as this "2015 College Schedules" entry. They are in here twice. They may look like Kristen Hester's card. I have no idea as I didn't see any scans. Whether or not they belong on our site, I think we all can agree that they don't belong on here twice.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster.
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jupiterhill
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:23 PM | |
Just an idea, but maybe they should have their own heading like Publications. I don't see a lot of these schedule cards as I mostly see the business card types, but if these cards had their own heading, maybe it could clear up some confusion.
Then again, I could do without them being included though they are cards.
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C2Cigars
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:27 PM | |
Yes, "set entries "2014 College Schedule Cards" and "2015 College Schedule Cards" under Misc. sports" are in part duplicating the individual school team issues and don't belong on here twice. I think those and any other generic, non-specific "College Schedule Cards" entries shouId be removed. As I said, Schedule Cards should be listed by individual schools under "Team Issues".
I don't think I've ever seen two schedules from different schools looking the same. I would venture to guess some of the school's student graphic artists design the schedules. The example above is one the best, and closest to a real trading card, I've seen. And it's an actual set of 9 different players.
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C2Cigars
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:24 PM | |
Jupiterhill, I think we're only talking about schedules that are cards and have an actual player(s) on the front. Yes, you're correct, a vast majority of shedules are simple cards or small pamphlets without any players on them. Of course those wouldn't belong on this site. Even as a "publication", they're not trade/hobby publications.
With a few exceptions (see above), I'm with you...we can do without them.
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switzr1
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:34 PM | |
I actually collect pocket schedules. Most are paper, foldout schedules. But I don't believe they belong on this site, and I don't consider them a part of my own card collection, even if they do feature a player on the front (I think this year's official foldout Cardinals schedule has Yadier Molina on it). The volleyball team in the picture is different. Those are cards. Even have stats on the back in addition to the schedule. I'm curious to see the scans of these lacrosse schedules that have been added. Last I checked, none seemed to have scans yet.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster.
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kents_stuff
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Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:49 PM | |
So teams publish their schedules for their fans--that's certainly nothing new. And in the example of the traditional tri-fold schedules of teams that I'm used to seeing for MLB/NBA teams over the years. Typically I would agree with several other commenters that I don't think those need to be included within the database. And I have recently been seeing several instances (especially with colleges) like the TCU volleyball example above: the team publishes multiple versions of their schedule, with different players on the front (or is that the back, in this case?). Anyways, a really cool idea that I think absolutely belongs here. And to me, they would clearly be team issue sets within the appropriate year and sport.
But there is a part of me that wonders what's the difference between the two, other than multiple versions of the same thing being offered in the second case? Should the former be just a "team issued" set of 1? Do we have any sets of 1 card in the database? And if it's a "set of 1", then is it really a set?
--Kent
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C2Cigars
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Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:57 PM | |
I looked at quite a few of the different set entries and checklists. There are many duplicates/overlap. It looks like one member (thesemers) put these checklists in here (and I suspect the set entries without checklists). They also show that that one member (thesemers) has all of them in their collection. But they haven't provided any scans. The ones I looked at are single schedules grouped together to form a "NCAA" or "College" checklist. Of course that means hundreds of schedule "cards" from all the US colleges would be missing from the checklist. The specific college checklists are a group of single schedule "cards" of each sport.
IMO, pocket schedules that aren't actual sets of cards (see example) don't belong in this database. Pocket schedules are more closely related to a publication than a trading card.
I think this issue needs to be elevated to Admin.
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thesemers
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Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:20 PM | |
I added most of the schedule cards. I haven't gotten around to scanning get them yet. I argued that I didn't think they belong either but was met with a majority opinion that they are like trading cards so they should be. Therefore I submitted checklists. If the administration doesn't think they belong and wants to delete them I'm fine with it. I enjoy collecting them but I keep them separate from my actual trading cards. I grouped the one offs together to try and avoid completely over populating the site with 1 card checklists. I may have accidentally put some in multiple checklists. I was planning on scanning these starting this weekend but if you want administration to delete these I won't waste my time.
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