Card Identification Forum

Ok, this set has me confounded. But I think I may have figured it out. If so, the TCDB entry needs to be revised a bit.

Beckett has the following parallels listed: Blue, In the Zone, Solos, Reflectors, and Torquers.

The TCDB has all of these PLUS a Red parallel.

According to Beckett, the In the Zone have gold lettering, the base cards are silver, the Torquers are red, the Blue are blue, and the Solos have a different sheen to the card (glossy?) and are marked "Solo 1 of 1", and the reflectors are holofoil with a laminate protector.
 

But, Beckett seems to be almost completely wrong on all counts. I just bought a sealed retail box of these and on the wrapper where it gives the odds of finding each insert it clearly describes the Torquers as being "Electric blue foil" and there is 1 per pack, meaning these are fairly common. Also, ALL of the base cards are gold letters which means Beckett's (and the TCDB) has the base cards and In the Zone cards switched. As I understand it, the In the Zone cards (silver) were basically inserted in the hobby packs the way the Torquers were in the retail packs. As for the Solos, they are red foil with the "Solo 1 of 1" on them and the number is preceeded by an "R". But apparently there are actually red foil cards that AREN'T Solos, or at the very least, don't have the "Solo 1 of 1" on them and are numbered exactly like the base set. COMC has 4 of the Solos and a couple of the mysterious red cards. But while I expect the Solos to be rare, I'm confused about the apparent rarity of the non-solo reds. I've never seen them anywhere other than COMC (well, there's one other on eBay, but that's it).

So, this is what I have figured out. Does anybody have any other info?

Base - Gold foil lettering

In The Zone - Silver foil lettering, released 1 per hobby pack

Torquers - Blue foil lettering, released 1 per retail pack

Reflectors - Holofoil with laminate protector, card number preceeded by an "R"

Solos - Red foil lettering, card number preceeded by an "R" and underneath has "Solo 1 of 1", possibly glossy

Red - Red foil lettering, same numbering as base cards (as opposed to the Solos)

Blue - Does not actually exist, mistaken for Torquers

COMC has it like you, except:

They have a blue listed on it's own

They have Torquers, but they look to be Silver (https://www.comc.com/Cards/Basketball/1998/Press_Pass_-_Base_-_Torquers/4/Vince_Carter/1495398)

I see no In The Zone on COMC (or ebay)

I hope somebody can figure out this almost 20 year old set!

Yeah, I thought the Torquers were either the silver or red, but then I got this box and according to Press Pass, the Torquers are blue. 

Torquers were always blue from Press Pass. Since Press Pass couldn't be bothered to put the name of the set on the cards, or even a code letter in the number, but only on the packaging, the confusion comes from people not knowing what the proper name of the set is and not realizing that Blue = Torquer. 

Solo are always mirror foil and labeled 1/1. 

Does that mean COMC has it incorrect?

Yes...they seem to have an issue with some Press Pass sets. I've typed in sets and had no results, then searched for the subject and found them listed with question marks. I sent corrections but I didn't remember to go back and look to see if they corrected them or not.

Thanks Billy. You know anything about the mysterious Red ones?

So we need to get all of the "Blue" ones moved over to Torquers and delete the Blue checklist. And I'm not sure if there are In the Zone card images showing in the base checklist and vice versa.

No can't say that I do on this one. Red was usually hobby while blue was retail or vice-versa. It wasn't always consistent, especially earlier in the Press Pass run. But with this one having red, blue and silver...I don't know. Sorry!

well i might have screwed the pooch here ... i bought that vince carter solo red 1 of 1 from ebay ... hoping its like some kind of mystical long forgten sacred 1/1 holy grail master piece ... any info will be greatly appreciated ... hope no one tels me its a piece of junk, cause i want to list it for like 8k ... dont shoot down my dreams please ... are the solo o 1 of 1's really 1/1 ?