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jpjanes
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Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:17 AM | |
I recently acquired three of these cards - the only three I recall ever handling to this point in my life. One has a gold border - a parallel, no problem. Two have foil 70th stamps on what appear to be otherwise base cards with a black border. All have print autographs. Notably, the two foils are significantly different colors, copper on one and gold the other. I cannot seem to locate the proper parallel category to properly catalogue my cards. Am I missing something existing (likely, given the comprehensiveness of this website), or is what I am looking for not included currently?
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jasongerman9
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Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:20 AM | |
They sound like Buybacks from 2017 Bowman.
Gold: https://www.tradingcarddb.com/Checklist.cfm/sid/154030/2017-Bowman---Bowman-Buybacks-Gold
Bronze: https://www.tradingcarddb.com/Checklist.cfm/sid/150959/2017-Bowman---Bowman-Buybacks-Bronze
You will need to submit an IR in each set to get them added, including the original year, number, name, and team. For example, "2007 Bowman #1, Hanley Ramirez, Florida Marlins" would be the necessary info for each.
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jpjanes
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Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:24 AM | |
Thank you for posting that so quickly. It seems you would have to have known that in your head. The copyright on the back even says 2007. Looking over the few shown following the respective links (thank you) I think I follow... Bowman issued a new set in 2017 using (reprinting) old Bowman card designs from various years including my 2007s, correct or close? The 2007 copyright threw me though... is there something about a buyback where they actually take the old genuine cards from whatever sources they can find them, and slap on a gold or bronze 70 foil stamp? Sounds odd. Is it a common industry practice? If that's not what occurred, why not print (copyright symbol) 2017 in the small print below so guys like me can find their cards easier in a catalog (TCDB, print or otherwise)?
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Lugnut80
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Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:05 PM | |
These are actual “vintage” cards not reprints. Topps did the same thing in 2017. No one knows exactly which cards and how many are out there so the checklist is a build it as we find them affair. I don’t think card companies give a lot of thought to ease of cataloging, much to all of our dismay.
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jpjanes
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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:48 PM | |
Ok, I took care of the two black-border base cards. Now I am having second thoughts about the gold card. This came in a lot of 2013 to 2016 Brewers cards, so I thought it was a little outside the trend to find 2007s..
Here's my problem: The gold card has a gold foil signature. The 2007 vintage Bowman cards feature a black print signature. My card has a gold foil signature. Would you be willing to bet they "bought it back" and imprinted the signature in gold foil, however carefully, over the black print signature, and re-released it as a 2017 buyback? This particular card does not have the 70th stamp on it. I would take and attach a photo to a personal email address, for instance if needed for clarity. Would you suspect it belongs with the same gold group listed above, or is the 70th stamp a compulsory feature? If not, can yet another link be posted?
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vrooomed
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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:34 PM | |
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jpjanes
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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:46 PM | |
Yes... except that the signature is in gold foil.
Am I missing a 2007 parallel? I'm leaning toward 2017 buyback.
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rmpaq5
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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 8:04 PM | |
If it doesn't have the 70th stamp on it it is a 2007 Gold parallel of the base, if it does it is a buyback. We can add the buyback to the checklist for you if it is a buyback. Just give card number, name, team, and set and we can add it.
If you run into more buybacks in the future open up an innacuracy report in the buyback set ( link is on the left hand side at the bottom of all the other links about the set) with the abover or as much info as you can give
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spazmatastic
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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:52 PM | |
The 2007 Bowman Gold cards did have the gold foil "signature" on them. They don't show up well in scans though. Without a 70 stamp, you certainly have the 2007 Bowman Gold card.
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