2017 Topps Archives Signature Series Postseason Baseball Forum

Hi, is anyone working on a checklist for this set?  If not I can get started, but didn't want to duplicate anyone else's work.

Is this another one where there are X number of players who have about 50 different cards, each SN differently?

If so, Admin has a preferred method. We started it over here in this set:

http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewSet.cfm/sid/127639/2016-Topps-Archives-Signature-Series

I like that....A LOT!!! Something like this would be great for tobacco sets that have multiple brand variations.

Chad, I'm missing the connection. For the Archives Signature products, all Topps releases is a list of the players included. I worked with Admin on trying to come up with the best way for us to cheklist what is truly out there. I had been tracking listings and other appearances of the Daulton ones (personal collection), so I was able to start with that one (haven't gotten back around to this project). I have access to other checklists, although I suspect they will be missing some of the ones that are SN5 or less.

If you could explain how this would help with the truly vintage stuff you are familiar with (I won't even claim familiarity with it), I'd love to read it. Thanks!

Dan, the Heroes/Men of History series is a good example (or for the baseball minded, the T206 series). Each of these series have all  the cards of the series issued with different advertisements on the back. For the  Heroes/Men of History there are 5 different advertisements on the back. 

So the Heroes set could look like this:

CARDS

   Included Sets (or maybe "Back Variations" or "Brand Variations")

     Royal Bengals Little Cigars

     Mners Extra Smoking Tobacco

     Pan Handle Scrap

     National Leaf Scrap

     Blank Back

This doesn't address the issue of "Basic Set" vs "Master Set". Some (like me) don't care what advertisement is on the card. If I have a card, regardless of the advertisement, I consider that spot on the checklist filled (Basic Set). Some collectors only want National Leaf Scrap backs (they are the coolest looking and the rarest) and some collectors want one of every back variation (master set). So the example you listed isn't the perfect solution, but I thought it a step in the right direction.  A couple weeks ago, Admin sent me a message saying that currently the database is not set up to handle "basic" vs "master" sets. I've started putting the variation descriptions in the release notes for some of the less confusing series. 

That is an abbreviated version of a very undeveloped idea. A lot of the tobacco sets get really confusing, especially after the formation of the American Tobacco Company in 1891. Its almost like they didn't even think about the people that would be collecting these cards 125 years after they were issued.

Thank you for the well-written explanation. I can see how doing those without a base set could help matters. I can see how it would be very difficult to program something t ocreate a "basic set", especially when the set has no numbers. (If the set was numbered, I could see how it could pull info from the multiple "related" sets and compile the results to show the "basic" set.) But, this does give some room for thought on these matters.