2005 Fleer Tradition Baseball Forum

I have Pittsburgh Pirate Cards for this set numbered above 350 which I listed below..

#381 Booby Hill

#438 Daryle Ward

#466 Jose Mesa

#562 Oliver Perez

#566 Rob Mackowiak

I would like to get a 2nd set of these but cannot find and nobody knows what I am talkin about when I ask. Also can't find a Checklist for these. Anyone have info?

You might be referring to the 2004 Topps set, but your numbers may be off a bit.

Perez is 552.

 Actually, I have a few Padres over#350 from the 2005 Fleer set, too.

429 - Ryan Klesko

510 - Ramon Hernandez 

541 - Jake Peavy

I bought the whole Padres subset around that year, but I haven't found the checklist either.

Some info I found out about this set is Fleer was going to release a series II but the bankruptcy halted production and the set was never officially released to the public but some cards got out to a few dealers during liquidation. I don't know how many cards, but you would think they would be worth some money if only a limited supply got out. I have asked many dealers about cards and checklists and could never get a answer.

If you click on "Inserts and Related Sets" then scroll down to and click on "Promo Sets" you will see "Series II Unreleased" and a checklist has been started.

Are these backdoored cards?

Yes. Several Series 2 cards surfaced after Fleer went under.

2005 Fleer Tradition - BaseballCardPedia.com

Does this then mean that these should not be listed on the site? I want to make sure not to bother adding to WL if they are just going to be removed.

All of the above cards are already in the rolling checklist, which is listed in the appropriate spot and OK to keep since the cards are known to exist.

What is the difference as for why these types of backdoored cards are allowed to be listed but not the un-numbered / proof / replacement cards that came out of the Pacific bankruptcy auction, or the proofs/etc that Topps sold on Ebay?