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Lerxst2112, thanks for reading the entire post and understanding that it takes thousands of hours to load 1.3 million cards, so it's not feasible to do it twice!  Admin has assured me that there is no rule that wantlist and tradelist have to be loaded, there are others who haven't loaded theirs.  I do love the hobby, love helping others complete sets and team sets.  In a large private trading group, the owner of the site calls me "set-killer." Ive already helped traders here complete sets. Not sure why so much negativity, I simply wanted to encourage others without lists to keep trying to trade.  I see a lot of members who have small inventories that havent logged on in a long time.  They may have left because the "welcoming" committee tells you if you dont play by their rules, then no one will trade with you. I've already had more transactions than two of the committee members, so their premise is false.  You can trade here without loading collections. If I only had 20-30,000, 100,00, or even 250,000 cards to load I might reload them, but not 1.3 million-noone would do that.  Not trying to "upset the apple cart", just trying to trade cardboard, help other traders, and continue to enjoy the hobby!

vroomed-thanks for sharing my Sportlots report card.  After 13 years, over 223,000 cards sold, and close to 15,000 transactions, I'm very happy with my feedback.  I also have bee a blue-star seller for many years, which means, I am a trusted seller and Sportlots guarantees any of my orders up to 100.00.  I appreciate you sharing, but you left out a few-see below!     I'm an good trader, with plenty of cards to trade, I will even check my list for you if needed.

I hope to do more trading here,  I dont mind searching lists, and I hope everyone would just allow each of us to do it our own way.  If you dont want to trade with me because I dont follow your way of trading, thats fine, but you do the site no justice by telling others they have to conform to your way of trading.  Some folks dont mind checking lists, there are at least 10 sites that still do it that way. So, I hope others will join, be welcomed, and allowed to just continue enjoying the hobby they love!

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You need to get over your butthurt about the "welcoming" committee. A few of us reached out to welcome you and let you know how it may be best to trade on here. Most people post similar intros like yours and never are heard from again. Nobody was telling you that you could only do it that way, we were just trying to make sure you wouldn't end up as one of those members that are never heard from again.

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Lerxst2112, thanks for reading the entire post and understanding that it takes thousands of hours to load 1.3 million cards, so it's not feasible to do it twice!  Admin has assured me that there is no rule that wantlist and tradelist have to be loaded, there are others who haven't loaded theirs.  I do love the hobby, love helping others complete sets and team sets.  In a large private trading group, the owner of the site calls me "set-killer." Ive already helped traders here complete sets. Not sure why so much negativity, I simply wanted to encourage others without lists to keep trying to trade.  I see a lot of members who have small inventories that havent logged on in a long time.  They may have left because the "welcoming" committee tells you if you dont play by their rules, then no one will trade with you. I've already had more transactions than two of the committee members, so their premise is false.  You can trade here without loading collections. If I only had 20-30,000, 100,00, or even 250,000 cards to load I might reload them, but not 1.3 million-noone would do that.  Not trying to "upset the apple cart", just trying to trade cardboard, help other traders, and continue to enjoy the hobby!

vroomed-thanks for sharing my Sportlots report card.  After 13 years, over 223,000 cards sold, and close to 15,000 transactions, I'm very happy with my feedback.  I also have bee a blue-star seller for many years, which means, I am a trusted seller and Sportlots guarantees any of my orders up to 100.00.  I appreciate you sharing, but you left out a few-see below!     I'm an good trader, with plenty of cards to trade, I will even check my list for you if needed.

I hope to do more trading here,  I dont mind searching lists, and I hope everyone would just allow each of us to do it our own way.  If you dont want to trade with me because I dont follow your way of trading, thats fine, but you do the site no justice by telling others they have to conform to your way of trading.  Some folks dont mind checking lists, there are at least 10 sites that still do it that way. So, I hope others will join, be welcomed, and allowed to just continue enjoying the hobby they love!

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BobbyL:

1.3 million cards listed on Sportlots is no small feat. Your ID there looked familiar, however, when I looked at my transactions there, none were with you. I know I've seen your inventory at some point in my searches. Not sure which quest I was on, but I guess there wound up being different ways to complete what I was looking for and the stars didn't align.

I don't remember anyone saying you couldn't trade here without loading your lists. Again, I don't like seeing misinformation spread. Additionally, you have started 2 forum threads here, both regarding trading. In the other one, I will take a few quotes from your various posts in that one:

Sorry, I guess I'm on the wrong site. If folks are too lazy to check someones wantlist when all they have to do is click the link to see my wants, and then check their computer inventory to see if they have it, then they really dont want to finish their sets.

Like I said, Im on the wrong site.  If you're too lazy to check yoiur traders against my wants, then you're not inerested in completing a set or finding more cards of your favorite player. 

I find it ironic that someone who doesn't want to use a website as it's designed calls out long-stnading members of the website lazy because they want to fully utilize the tools that the site has. Why join a website like this if you don't want to use the tools? And then call the members there lazy because YOU don't want to spend the time to use those tools? Do you see yet how this looks to those that have been here a while?

You are absolutely correct in the fact that trades can happen here without loading your lists. However, if nobody loaded their lists here, the ability to make any trades would be very difficult. I have been able to make most of the trades I have made because others have loaded their inventory (full or partial), and I loaded my want list. If I never loaded my want list, inever would have known these fellow members had what I wanted. Additionally, they loaded their want lists, so I was able to see what they needed, and knowing what I had available to move, I was able to match it up - but only because they had their lists here was I able to pull off those trades. Without the tools of the web site being available, and using them, those trades would not have happened. If every member on this site had your attitude about using the tools, I doubt we'd have over 8300 completed.

You got off on the wrong foot by caling the members here lazy. I wish you nothing but continued success and enjoyment of the hobby, here and any other site in which you wish to participate.

I have no butthurt, just think some of those you never hear from again left, because of the "welcoming" committees rude welcome! All of you guys have been quick to offer your opinion, but most folks dont care about your opinion.  Just leave people alone, let them explore the site for themselves. If they have questions, there's a forum for that, or, as I did, they can get what's true and not true from Admin. If folks want to trade, they will find a way to do so-their way, they don't need anyone's advice or opinion!

cnangle(chad), thanks for the comments.  I have purposedly done small trades, for one to get to know other traders and build trust, also, I understand removing invetory is tougher for big orders.  With my account on sportlots, I trade a few starter sets, and it does take a little time to remove from inventory. I appreciate our trade and will check your list and hopefully trade again soon!

vroomed(Dan), the person who shared this site with me, never said anything about an automated trading system.  I thought it was like all other card sites, share a link of my wantlist and check the wantlist of the other trader!  So, not knowing, I felt is was lazy to refuse to click on a link to see my wantlist.  Had I known how it worked, I may have stated it differently. If I understand it now, you still have to click on the other traders collections to see their cards or what they need. So, how is that different from cicking on a wantlist?  And by the way, I'm sure that Sportscardfun.com, Sportscardforum.com, and Blowout.com have all had way more than 8,000 transactions, and they do it the old fashion way.  I appreciate your comments and insight, but too much work to reload all my inventory.. Thanks for the good wishes, same to you. I will be fine, enjoy checking wantlists and killing sets, and the folks Ive traded with so far are top notch!

You are 100% right in that members here can trade in which ever manner they wish.

I don't think you are quite so right in the "rude" welcome.  We repeatedly provide the advice to upload want and trade lists to all who come wanting to trade. This site provides the function to match our lists against others and the ability to transfer cards from one member's collection to another's when a trade is completed.  We have all grown to really appreciate it, so much so that most of us don't bother seeking trades in any other way because we have plenty to complete within this site.

You are within your right to continue trading using your methods as they work for you, here or on any other site you are active on. But just because some of us don't want to take the time to search through your trade list on another site does not make us lazy. As you can see, calling us lazy simply insults most members here.

Sincerely, I welcome you to the site. A person with as extensive a collection as you have could contribute a lot to the site and benefit its members as well as newcomers who are searching to identify a certain card. There are areas that remain limited in the information the site has because of the scarcity of the cards or the lack of information on their origin.  One example of this is the "Broder" or unlicensed card market.  Many of us have single cards from sets that comprise 10-20 cards. If you possess complete sets and helped load checklists, or provided the information to the rest of us so that we could load the set and checklist, it would help others in knowing what theirs are.

This site is much more than a card collectors' trading site.  Unlike other sites, the members are its biggest contributors of the information within the database. The members here do enjoy this site and are on it almost every day.  I hope you find it as pleasurable as the rest of us do.  Welcome aboard.

    Actually, I am no longer accepting trades from members who do not enter their cards into the database. I have been burned twice by traders who look through my for trade cards and use what I have entered in the database to easily find the cards that they want, but do not bother to take the time to look at my want list and send accordingly. I would have thought others would have the courtesy to not choose to send cards that are already in my collection. I am not going to do the work for you, and I'm done taking chances. Enter your cards in the database or don't even bother sending me a trade request. 

Since I only want t ocomment on a small portion of your post:

BobbyL wrote: "I thought it was like all other card sites, share a link of my wantlist and check the wantlist of the other trader!  So, not knowing, I felt is was lazy to refuse to click on a link to see my wantlist.  Had I known how it worked, I may have stated it differently."

and

"If I understand it now, you still have to click on the other traders collections to see their cards or what they need. So, how is that different from cicking on a wantlist?"

For part 1 - And this is why it pays to do a little research before saying something that's incorrect.

For part 2 - No - once you have your want list loaded, you can click on a link on your own profile page that will show you all the members on here who have stuff that matches. Same for your FS/FT list. Again, a little research and you will have the info to make correct statements.

Of all the people on here, I completely understand the resistance to loading a large amount of FS/FT items. (I have quite a bit myself, no where near what you have, but I did at one point - been selling off stuff for more than 20 years.) I still don't have everything I own up here, but I did get a want list on here. And I got some of my available cards on here. Just recently got my team collection listed (took about 12 evenings to get it shaped up). It's a process. This site is a database. It allows members to track 3 things - collection, wants, & FS/FT. It also provides information about approximately 9 million cards along with images of about 25% of those. Do what you want here, but don't call others names because they don't wish to do things your way. If you noiced, no one called you lazy for not wanting to upload your cards here and use the site's built-in tools.

sandyrusty- thanks for your comments, but again folks will ask if they need or want help.  When 4 or 5 folks share the same advice, which has no bearing on you, then it doesnt seem like advice,Had I known I was expected to reload 1.3 million cards beforehand, I might not have joined. Once the admin shared some different insight, I thought I would give it a couple weeks. Glad I stayed, helped others and myself with 14 trades.  I have never asked anyone to do it my way. I think each person should be able to trade as they want and not be chastised for doing so. It's a hobby, cardboard, no reason animosity.

Doe MG-no worries, I wont be checking your lists, you have very little inventory.

vroomed-there's always one, isnt there?

BobbyL - There is a group at Yahoo called Trading Bases. They are advanced collectors, and membership requires approval. They have a members only directory which requires links to your want and trade lists. They trade exactly how you want to trade.  

One of the great things about the database here is that when used properly, the traded cards are shown in transit and then are automatically moved to the collection of their new owner when marked received. Neither collector needs to add or subtract from their collections.

My post was not directed at you specifically, but to those who have no intention of using the database program for trading.  

Something that would benefit everyone involved in trading here is for those who find it impossible to enter their cards into the database here, is that after you find the cards in someone's trade/sale list in the database, you look at their want list. If you have cards from their want list- enter those cards into the database as being for trade and then propose a trade. That way,  the overwhelmed folks do not have to take the time to enter all of their trade stock, and those of us who use the database for all aspects of collecting will get the cards we actually want.