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jmiller4
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:53 PM | |
The Josh Timlin card for this set is listed as #311 on the Topps checklist, but the back of the card has #164 which is Joe Kelly. The database has Timlin listed as UER 164c making it a variation. Shouldn't the card be listed as UER #311 with the error bein numbered 164 on back? If you guys agree with me, could someone with permissions please make this change.
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C2Cigars
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 5:05 PM | |
No. Card # errors are listed as the card number that appears on the card.
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vrooomed
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 5:59 PM | |
As usual, C2C nailed it - the card should be listed in the database as the number printed on the card, then noted in the Note2 field "UER: Player should be #311 per the checklist" or some sort of verbiage like that to explain what the error (in this case that wasn't corrected) was.
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jmiller4
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:06 PM | |
Why would you list it as a variation. The back of card 250 in the set clearly shows that #311 is Timlin so that should be the number of the card and be listed as an UER for having the wrong # on the back. Why can't it be done that way. It is clearly NOT a variation of #164
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ketchupman36
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:25 PM | |
http://www.tradingcarddb.com/FAQ.cfm?ITEM=CardNumbers
Admin has stated that the card numbers should reflect what is printed on the card, so listing it as card 311 wouldn't be correct. Yes it is not a true variation of card 164, it nonetheless belongs under that card number listed as an error. I see your point though but there is not a true numbered card 311 for that set.
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jmiller4
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:31 PM | |
Then that would make the set 329 base cards instead of 330 beacuse you have 164a and 164c being a variation and not a seperate card.
Edited on: Aug 2, 2017 - 6:32PM
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Mitch
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:44 PM | |
My head is being filled with memories of sorting 1986 Topps. Frustrating that this has happened on more recent sets too.
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C2Cigars
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:52 PM | |
Think about this way; using your logic all NNO card sets are one card sets. You're getting hung up on card numbers instead of card subjects. The number of cards in a set is based on subjects not card numbers. Josh Timlin is one subject and Joe Kelly is a separate subject.
jmiller4 wrote:
Then that would make the set 329 base cards instead of 330 beacuse you have 164a and 164c being a variation and not a seperate card.
Edited on: Aug 2, 2017 - 7:54PM
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jmiller4
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| Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:19 PM | |
I understand your logic completely but the way it is listed, it has turned a base card with an error into a variation of another card, which it is not.
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bkim
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| Thursday, August 3, 2017 2:26 AM | |
all I will say is look at this card in the data base I was lost when i got back into collecting and had to work on this set before i learned of numbering problem with it
TCDB page of the card
and with a Bobby wine card as manager of the Braves in the 80's
lost now too as my left shift key stopped working and I am a hunt and peck typer
Edited on: Aug 3, 2017 - 2:29AM
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