1990 Best Jacksonville Expos Baseball Forum

I'm working on a long term project that was initiated by Vrooomed to validate/edit PIDs. As part of that project, I make sure that every PID is assigned a sample image. Before I assign a sample, I make sure that the card is properly aligned and cropped. I keep finding that the majority of the cards that need fixing are from the top contributors.

This annoyed me (actually still does sometimes) until I started thinking about the number of scans that the "top 10" members have contributed. I would bet that if you did the math, the top 10 members (in terms of points) have probably submitted over half the scans that exist in the database and that's not to mention the number of checklists they have submitted.

I'm not saying its right...but those guys do a lot of work and the database would not be what it is today without them.

Thank you cnangle.

I have OCD in certain areas, for me guidelines are guidelines, but rules are rules. I do believe that the maker of the site says "scans" not "internet images". Sorry but I will never feel that doing something other than the owner has asked you to do is right. Oh that's right I'm self-employed and in construction so the owner is the boss so I have to listen to them. If not I get may not get paid or even worse fired. So I listen to the owner. If you have had discussions with the owner and they say otherwise so be it, but as far as I can tell Admin(owner) has never told us it is a free for all. For me it is not a huge part to get every image ASAP. But I shall stop myself now as the last time this came up I said thigs I needed to apologize for. Bye. =)

Taking images from other sites that are scans are still scans, right? BOOM! Minds blown!!!

I don't have a dog in this fight, but if I may.... If the image is taken from another site, how can anyone be sure nothing has been altered/edited/photoshopped?  Or if there are variations, how can anyone be 100% certain that fronts and backs have been kept together properly?

In other words, wouldn't having the card in hand eliminate any confusion about the card in question?  My concern is accuracy, not credit.

Holy smokes. I'm gonna throw this out there once and for all, and get it off my chest. This thread seems like a good place to do it, because I'm pretty sure it's about to turn into the type of thread I'm going to talk about.

First of all, to answer the first poster's question, either an inaccuracy report or a message to Admin to get the offending scans removed would suffice in this situation.

Secondly, we are getting to a point where threads like this are making this site way less fun than it used to be. I know it isn't all about having fun, but the arguing and the disputes are causing me to spend less time on here. Maybe I'm the only one so it's a moot point, but my goodness; this used to be a collecting community that would have an occasional dispute that could be moved past, but now it's turning into more finger-pointing, accusing, and attacking than anything else, it seems.

Maybe I'm over-reacting. But as I recall others stating before, this type of behavior will drive away new members, and it could start trickling down to current members too. I'm not perfect. I've contributed to the arguing and bickering (heck, I'm doing it now). But it seems to be happening way too frequently now.

Yes, the members who are ranked highest in points have a way of uploading scans that not all agree with. Yes, not everyone is going to load their wantlist and tradelist on here. Yes, there will be trolls and debates and disagreements. But it doesn't have to happen consistently.

Sorry if anyone thinks I'm out of line here, and sorry if this seems rambling or out of place, but it gets tiring reading the same complaints over and over again, and the bickering on the forums is just foolish. Let's get back to where we used to be and continue to build this into the greatest card collecting website out there, made up of the greatest card collecting community there is. 

Oh, trust me I know the images I am uploading are 100% NOT altered/edited/photoshopped. I have a pretty good understanding of sports cards but thank you for your concern.

I was going to browse 1981 Donruss baseball but so many of the backs were unreadable that I gave up. There are hundreds of members with those cards who could upload better scans but they won't because they are already there. My personal feeling is that image and scan quality are at the bottom of the priority list on here. Some of mine deserve to be nuked too!

Actually, I disagree with you on "but those guys do a lot of work and the database would not be what it is today without them". There are plenty of members who want to contribute but can't because some are uploading stolen images before another member can scan and upload his cards.  There was someone who mentioned this very fact in another thread along a similar discussion.  Some new members would like to increase their points so that they can contribute more by getting higher permissions. The easiest way for them to increase their points is through uploading scans. But they can't because the easy uploads are being watched by some like vultures around road kill.

Get rid of the points above 20,000 and the problem goes away.

NOPE, is using a speech from wikipedia stealing?