General Forum

As I spend more time on this wonderful database I am learning that there are truly no new topic discussion under the forums. That being said I apologize if this has been discussed before.

As a fellow collector I find some of the variations listed on this database as almost an overkill. That being said I understand that there are some hardcore variation collectors out there. The variations that I notice I haven't seen listed come as a suprise to me. Jersey relics. I, as I am sure others do, have many jersey relic variations. The card will be the same but the jersey can be a home game or an away game jersey. It is not a variation that happens in every set, but I am finding that it happens a lot. I do understand that it may be impossible to actually know what variations and how many exsist in any given set. I personally feel that these variations deserve some sort of documentation saying as they are not printing errors and that good bit of these variations are pletiful.

There are some sets, such as GInter or Turkey Red in baseball, that I believe can have either a bat or jersey relic in the card. I believe those should be documented. As for different jersey colours etc...that in my opinion is a bit of a grey area. Where do you draw the line? This one is from a white uni but shows a pinstripe, this one two stripes, this one none. I get what you are saying, but if we continue to decompose each piece of fabric down to how it looks the data base can get clogged with multiple "fictional 1/1s". My suggestion for those that want to document this in their own collection would be to use the comments field for the card in their collection.

I stand on thefence on this one. I have my own beliefs that may or may not be as directed here, however after much discussion and the making of the guidelines that was decided to be not needed. I being part of said discussions agreed to the decision. In the hockey world it goes as such 1 color, 2 color, etc. With as many as 5 or 6 color MEMs being significantly more valuable. I tried buying a Team Canada card that had the multi colored maple leaf from our 150th birthday and it went for MAJOR bucks. However like mentioned above that has been decided to be left to the individual and not the site itself.

The variations I was talking about are simpler ones then this one is white with pin stripe on it compared to white with no pinstripe. I am talking about home game jerseys and away game jerseys. A variation that was intentional by the munufacturer as they had to come from 2 different jerseys. One card with an all white jersey, one card with an all blue jersey.

Check out the 2018 Topps Holiday Jose Abreu.  Jersey and also bat...

https://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/191079/cid/12345422/2018-Topps-Holiday---Relics-R-JA-Jose-Abreu

https://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/191079/cid/12058055/2018-Topps-Holiday---Relics-R-JA-Jose-Abreu?PageIndex=1

There are sets that do distinguish between home/away and I'm okay with that variation, but beyond that what was mentioned between pinstripes or no pinstripes you're looking at a multitude of possibilities and the tedium related to it becomes ultimately irrelevent to me. I mean logically if it's a bat relic, no two pieces will be alike whether or not they come from the same bat or not. similarly for a uniform swath. 

This is an example I am speaking of. https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/2002/Upper_Deck_Sweet_Spot_Classics_-_Game-Used_Jerseys/J-TG/Tony_Gwynn/2465574

I agree with bats there is no telling if it is from same bat. Its the clear difference in home\away jerseys that I am speaking of. I am not even talking about the pinstripe either.

Funny enough there is yet another color on this listing that I don't have of this card. 

If there is a set for that var. and the manufacturer do it for that reason.  OK but just diff colors  NO.  I have one player that I have 3 diff cards now.  1. red  2.  white   3.  red and white.  Now I have seen a blue one.  All the same card.  I'm thinking  red and white from college jerseys and blue from pro jersey.  You even see what appears to be diff fabric.  

The Gwynn cards are "Game Uniforms" not "Game Jersey". Those aren't jerseys. Read the back of the card, they're pants.

But for our database, unless the card specifically states the "Home" or "Away" difference, then they are not considered variations.

Ooops my bad calling those jerseys. They were just the only example I could find on Comc.com real fast. All in all I am just trying to figure out what is considered a legitimate variation for this site and what isn't. I will say that it still isn't 100% clear to me yet.