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At what point do you folks withdraw a trade proposal you sent to someone?  How long do you wait?  Keeping in mind the person's profile shows they log on the site frequently.

There was a thread about this not that long ago here: https://www.tcdb.com/Forum.cfm/Page/B/ID/0/?MODE=VIEW&ThreadID=23444#143102

My personal view is 2 days if you can see that they've been logged on. I don't see how someone can't so much as send a quick "Thanks for the offer. Let me think about it.." or something like that. In my experience I've learned that if someone can't so much as take the time to reply when you've reached out to them, they just don't have time to do a trade/sale properly (not just on TCDB, but other card sites as well). On more than one occasion, I've sent messages to people (and "professional" companies), and waited 1 week + for a response. I usually do some digging on them at that point and have a habit of coming across some less than savoury reviews, especially about ghosting after accepting payment, or flat out arguing about stated conditions of cards. These seem to go hand in hand and are a  complete turn-off for me personally. 

Sure, we all have lives and work and families ect. but I don't hang about if the other person doesn't acknowledge me reaching out, and, frankly, I would expect nothing less if the shoe was on the other foot. Commencing the trade, on the other hand, I have no problem if it takes time to think about an offer, pull the cards, check conditions and pass on info, package and ship them.

Loaded questiom ! I think there is more to this question than meets the eye.

#1 - Logging in factor: I log in daily, I might have work to do onsite. Doesn't mean I'm always on to trade.

#2 - Inventory: Huge Factor! Are we talking about a trade with a trader with 4,000 cards or 4,000,000 cards? This alone could be a deal breaker. Also, how organized is the trader? Another deal breaker...looking for 1 card in a mess of billions. The truth however is, I probably have the card[s], just can't locate them ...like bingo!

#3 - COMMUNICATION should be 1st and foremost. BOTH traders. 

With that said, WD from an offer used to rankle me, especially when I didn't even look at it yet, let alone respond to it. Since I generally don't make offers but receive plenty. I'm not sure how long, but I would have a sliding scale based on the above 3 factors. In today's world setting a hard and fast time frame doesn't work for me, but communicating is a must and may alleviate ill- will.

While on the subject of WDing, Declinig should also be considered. I hate TO DECLINE a well formatted offer, the trader obviously had to work hard to put the offer together and I decline lickety-split. Once again the 3 factors come into play, and should be considered. I do reply to all offers in time, some offers I can get out asap, others are "multi-everything" that are complex and take time. In offers of a 100 card mixed offer, my timeline can take a while, so unfortunately these traders need the patience of a saint. 

So wrapping up, my intentions are honorable but sometimes complicated. I would never be deceitful or try to "fake news" my traders. I don't get upset with WD offers anymore  [although I always wonder why??], sometimes things in life get in the way of a "cardboard trade". To this day I rarely decline an offer, could be irritating to my trader, but I always explain my reasoning.

My Soapbox, My way, My 2-cents...........~bob~

If they are logging in I would give it a week and if no reply move on. Would probably leave it another week if they had not logged on in the first week then withdraw it.

Dont really care how many cards people have, how many trades they have on the go or how hectic their life is.

If in a week of logging on they don't even have the courtesy to flick a 30 second message saying "Hi. Have seen you proposal but are busy will aim to get back to you by x" then I doubt I want to deal with them anyway.

I value open and honest communication over anything and if I can get that from the start I can deal with anything else.

Not sure how someone can get offended if an offer they have never communicated on is withdrawn.

The only proposal I have ever sent was in April. The other trader replied they were really busy with a lot of offers and would contact me in the future. Haven't heard anything since May 1 but that doesn't matter as they have acknowledged seeing the offer and I am happy that the will get to it when they do.

There are no rules. Lots of people check in on the site daily maybe ffrom work or something like that but just don't have or want to take the time to dig through their cards or they may think I will get to that in a few days. If you feel you want to pull the offer back and move on then go ahead. I don't think members take offense to that. You can always look at a tradfe again when it's a better time for both of you. If you want to leave it a few days longer then great.

Normally I log in throughout the week, but only look at the trades on the weekend. That way I have time to pull the cards before re saying yes or no to the trade.

First off, TCDB offers the option to prevent offers from being sent to you at any point, but if you're able to send one it means the other party hasn't turned off trading so; the assumption then is that they are open to trading since there are matches to both collectors.

Just choose your own parameters be it 1-day, 2-days, a week, etc., to withdraw and move on.

I recently decided to take a break from trading for personal reasons, and it happened while actively considering trade offers and working on counter offers on a couple of others. I had communicated to each that I was either considering it or countering with an explanation. I had to make an abrupt withdrawal of offers, counters, and even declined a couple I was considering, and I believe I sent each one a message explaining my actions. With the way the system now allows messages to be sent within the transaction I'm not sure that a couple of my messages were received since I sent the message and then either withdrew or declined the offer afterwards.

Anyway, feel free to withdraw as you choose and move on. Communicate as best you can regardless if others choose not to. It'll come out better for you in the end.

I recently withdrew an offer that was waiting for a year even though the person posts in the forum almost daily advertising their ebay listings. One would think a person that active in trying to sell would be willing/able to respond to a trade/buy offer  at some point during the tear. I see that type of inaction as nothing but inconsiderate.

If they login everyday and can't be bothered to send you a message after a week I would cancel it and move on.  The exception is if they state on their profile that they take their time to get around to trades then just be patient.  

I have an offer to BoBCardz thats about a month old, but he had made posts on the forums letting everyone know how he is operating.  I don't need the cards right away so I can be patient.  I figure we'll be watching football by the time he gets to it but thats OK 

I give it 7 days because people do work and have families. You know, things to do. Then I send a message. 3ed days after that with no reply, I move on. I also don't bother sending a trade offer to anyone that has not been logged on in 4 days or has no feedback. 

You have to set yourself some rules you think are good for yourself and stick to them.