Card Identification Forum

it is almost identical to the rose card #1 in the set. only difference is the back is blank and the circle on the front where the positions are displayed is filled in white instead of red. 

If i need to post a pic i will when i get up

It's not a card, it's cut from the wax box cover.

 So when people say "box top card" or there are inserts on here with that label is it from actually cutting the top of the box as in this case?

   I feel so dumb as I've never understood what it meant and the it was completely  random I even clicked on this thread. Thanks for the question, the reply and hopefully I've learned earn something new- Cheers! Becky

Becky, you reference two distinct cards. 

• Box top or wax box cards are actually cut from the box that contained packages or sets of cards. Some have blank backs while others were actually made to be cut out and have player or team information as regular cards do. 
• Inserts are regular type cards that are not part of the base set. Instead they form part of another smaller set related to the base set. They are inserted in packages of cards one purchases. 

Let me add... Not sure Box Top cards exist unless you actually cut the card from the top and try to pass it off as a "rare blankback" as Chuck said.

Now Box Bottoms are real and quite collectible, and listed on here. They are listed as individual cut out cards or in full panels.

There are also the larger size cards that are inserted into boxes that are considered box top cards.

They're called "box toppers".

I believe when you say "box top card" you're referring to "box toppers"; oversized cards placed in a box "on top" of the packs of cards, not cut from the top of the box.  Cards cut from the bottom of boxes are actual cards meant to be cut from the box.  They are usually listed as "Wax Bottom Cards" or "Wax Bottom Panel" under Inserts and Related Sets. You'll also find "Box Toppers" listed there.

The Pete Rose fake card referenced above is just the sample image printed on the box.  Ebay scammers will cut the images from the boxes and try to pass them off as "blank backs" or "blank back proofs".  You'll notice on the Pete Rose "card" that the "BASEBALL" banner overlays the bottom of the card.  To cut this "card" straight on the bottom edge will make the "card" undersized; less than 3-1/2 inches.

FYI, this is Rose's actual Topps Wax Box card from that year:

https://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/10131/cid/2290034/1986-Topps---Wax-Box-Cards-N-Pete-Rose?PageIndex=1

  Good point.  Forgot about his actual Box Bottom card, which could lead to confusion.